Thanks for the review Joe.
On 2/5/2008 11:26 PM, Joseph Salowey (jsalowey) wrote:
> In reading this draft (-09 version) I came up with a few questions and
> comments:
>
> Section 3 -
>
> Section 3 is a bit confusing it seems that much of the text is section
> 3.1 (detailed description of exchang
Yes, and I realized after sending this that what I had seen earlier
(that I mentioned at the end of my note) was just the announcement on
January 4th that the root servers would be updated on February 4th.
Dan
On Feb 5, 2008, at 6:57 PM, Daniel Brown wrote:
2008/2/4 Dan York <[EMAIL PROTEC
Dave,
Not wishing to speak for Ray, let me give some general observations:
1. IETF meetings require BOTH a suitable venue (meeting rooms) AND a
host organization.
2. The host organization have a large say in location (city)
selection, for a number of reasons. We are going to Philadelphi
Ray Pelletier wrote:
> The venue will be the beautiful Citywest Hotel, "Ireland’s premier
> Conference, Leisure & Golf Resort and one of Europe’s most popular
> International Conference destinations. The four star Citywest Hotel is
> only 20km from Dublin airport and 15km from Dublin City Centre
Dave Crocker wrote:
> Ray Pelletier wrote:
>> The venue will be the beautiful Citywest Hotel, "Ireland’s premier
>> Conference, Leisure & Golf Resort and one of Europe’s most popular
>> International Conference destinations. The four star Citywest Hotel is
>> only 20km from Dublin airport and 15
At 8:37 -0800 2/6/08, $someone wrote:
>The descriptions of the venue make clear that, once again, the IETF is meeting
>in a ghetto. Periodic bus service doesn't counteract that.
I really have a hard time being sympathetic to this complaint. If
the purpose of the IETF is open discussion and cro
On Feb 6, 2008 1:29 PM, Edward Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 8:37 -0800 2/6/08, $someone wrote:
>
> >The descriptions of the venue make clear that, once again, the IETF is
> >meeting
> >in a ghetto. Periodic bus service doesn't counteract that.
>
> I really have a hard time being sympathe
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 01:29:40PM -0500, Edward Lewis wrote:
>
> I really have a hard time being sympathetic to this complaint. If
> the purpose of the IETF is open discussion and cross-pollination,
> what does it matter where we are so long as there's comfortable
> access to the expertise ne
Hi Edward,
On Wed, February 6, 2008 10:29 am, Edward Lewis wrote:
> At 8:37 -0800 2/6/08, $someone wrote:
>
>>The descriptions of the venue make clear that, once again, the IETF is
>> meeting
>>in a ghetto. Periodic bus service doesn't counteract that.
>
> I really have a hard time being sympa
Ole Jacobsen wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Not wishing to speak for Ray, let me give some general observations:
>
> 1. IETF meetings require BOTH a suitable venue (meeting rooms) AND a
>host organization.
Sorry, but it has been demonstrated that a host is not required.
It has further been demonstrate
I am still not convinced that there is a shortage of other places for
lunch.
Citywest (that the hotel is part of)
http://www.citywest.ie/
is a large business campus (including some companies that will be familiar
to IETF participants)
In their list of amenities it says that there is "a choice o
Dave,
(Reducing the CCs a bit)
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Dave Crocker wrote:
> Ole Jacobsen wrote:
> > Dave,
> >
> > Not wishing to speak for Ray, let me give some general observations:
> >
> > 1. IETF meetings require BOTH a suitable venue (meeting rooms) AND a
> >host organization.
>
> Sorr
While I agree with the sentiments of Ted and others[1], isn't this
all rather a moot point?
I would expect Ray has already signed a locked-in contract with the
hotel/resort in Dublin, correct?
Is there realistically any chance to change it?
If the Dublin venue can NOT be changed at this point
On 6 feb 2008, at 17:57, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
> 1. IETF meetings require BOTH a suitable venue (meeting rooms) AND a
> host organization.
I sometimes wonder how cheap and convenient IETF meetings would be if
the fee reflected just the meeting costs, the hotel room fees wouldn't
be used to su
Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
> I sometimes wonder how cheap and convenient IETF meetings would be if
> the fee reflected just the meeting costs, the hotel room fees wouldn't
> be used to subsidize the venue price and venue selection only
> considered price and convenience for the IETF goers an
I wrote:
>
> It's Ray's job to make the call. It's the IAOC's job to see that he
> does his job well. I think Ray has at least earned the benefit of the
> doubt. Perhaps this is best viewed retrospectively since contracts
> are signed?
I am told the following by someone who should know:
> A
On 6 feb 2008, at 21:53, Eliot Lear wrote:
>> I sometimes wonder how cheap and convenient IETF meetings would be
>> if the fee reflected just the meeting costs, the hotel room fees
>> wouldn't be used to subsidize the venue price and venue selection
>> only considered price and convenienc
>
> It's Ray's job to make the call. It's the IAOC's job to see that he
> does his job well. I think Ray has at least earned the benefit of the
> doubt.
I don't think so ..given the perfectly rational questions that are being
asked about this particular sub-optimal site, the community has
Dan York wrote:
> While I agree with the sentiments of Ted and others[1], isn't this all
> rather a moot point?
> I would expect Ray has already signed a locked-in contract with the
> hotel/resort in Dublin, correct?
> Is there realistically any chance to change it?
So it's probably a good thi
BTW - I have no knowledge of the venue, I've never been to Ireland.
I'm reacting to seeing these complaints pile up over the years about
nearly everywhere we have been.
I remember staying in Rathcoole about 35 years ago. It was a lovely
rural place. I came back to stay there aga
Dave,
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 11:54:43AM -0800, Dave Crocker wrote:
>
> Hence the question about priorities. Start with declaring Dublin the venue
> and
> it well might be true that this is the best venue. Start with a requirement
> that the venue have ample resources within walking distanc
Richard,
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 04:48:15PM -0500, Richard Shockey wrote:
>
> Sites that are substantially distant from city centers or major
> transportation hubs IMHO don't work for the IETF community irrespective of
> whether they are in North America, Asia or ECMA.
While I don't particularl
Jaap Akkerhuis wrote:
[..]
And it seems the the resort is build
on the meadows used by the fairies.
Fairies hebben geen heibel gemaakt want de golf-velden daar liggen er
super mooi bij.
Er is ook een helicopter landplaats daar, wat wellicht een goede optie is :)
I'm afraid that the potheen
David Kessens wrote:
> Most european cities are served by Aer Lingus and by Ryan
> Air which is quite possible the cheapest airline on earth.
Only because I happened to see this today:
> Airline ordered to pay for booting band The Associated Press Article
> Launched: 02/06/2008 07:08:27 AM P
David Kessens wrote:
> Maybe you should volunteer for a position on the IAOC if you believe
> you can set these priorities better than the people who are
> currently responsible for this job.
David,
Maybe a discussion about priorities should be a discussion about priorities
rather than being tr
On 5-Feb-2008, at 23:48, Ram Mohan wrote:
> This will get taken care of in a short time here.
Appropriate records were added to the INFO zone earlier today.
Joe
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Review of draft-ietf-hokey-erx-09
I have reviewed this document as part of the Operations and Management
directorate effort. These comments were primarily written for the
benefit of the O&M area directors. Document editors and WG chairs
should treat these comments just like any other last ca
Just as a heads-up, this tool seems to have gotten at least
partially broken. I have submitted trouble tickets to
ietf-action, but to save others from wasting time trying to get
around the problems (and in the hope that someone will have an
idea as to a workaround)...
In the last two hours, I've
Cullen Jennings skrev:
>
> I'd like to comment as an individual on one part of our process for
> doing IONs.
>
> The process for publishing them has many bottlenecks and delays and we
> need a better way of doing it. If we decide to continue with IONs, I
> will provide detailed comments on issues w
My comment said "or" as in one or the other, if you had re read the comment
properly before going snarky. I don't dispute Dublin airport is a useful
transportation hub. I want to know why this particular venue was selected
and what was the criterion used to make the evaluation. That is a simple
que
> The descriptions of the venue make clear that, once again, the IETF
> is meeting in a ghetto. Periodic bus service doesn't counteract
> that.
If you look at the Google map and satellite photos of the venue, there
appears to be quite a lot of residential and commercial development
just east of i
100% agree with all your points.
I think we should focus on if the IONs are needed. If we determine
they are, then we can discuss things we learned about the tooling and
how to do it better.
Cullen
On Feb 6, 2008, at 6:34 PM, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
>
> - that one should be able to tell
Richard,
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:41:07PM -0500, Richard Shockey wrote:
> My comment said "or" as in one or the other, if you had re read the comment
> properly before going snarky. I don't dispute Dublin airport is a useful
> transportation hub. I want to know why this particular venue was sel
Thanks for your quick response, comments inline:
> -Original Message-
> From: Lakshminath Dondeti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:03 AM
> To: Joseph Salowey (jsalowey)
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [HOKEY] Last Call: draft-ietf-hok
David Kessens wrote:
> PS anyways, maybe the local/Dublin restaurant scene is really not what we
>should be looking for in Ireland: should we not care more
>about the local brews ?
Open taps in each meeting room might, indeed, eliminate any complaints about
the
venue.
d/
--
Dave
John C Klensin wrote:
> For the second, it claims that the file isn't "plain text" and
> won't post it or even provide a manual submission path. The
> file is output or xml2rfc, has proper CRLF line endings, and, if
> it contains any non-ASCII characters or serious format
> misbehavior, the onlin
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