IAOC IAD Dublin Office Hours

2008-07-17 Thread Ray Pelletier
The IAOC and IAD will hold Office Hours in Dublin on Wednesday and Thursday from 1610 - 1700 in the Vanessa suite on floor 2. This is an opportunity to ask questions about or offer suggestions regarding the administrative support of the IETF and the Meetings; or make inquiries about Hosting a

Re: Last Call: draft-reschke-webdav-search (Web Distributed Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV) SEARCH) to Proposed Standard

2008-07-17 Thread Javier Godoy
The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Web Distributed Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV) SEARCH ' draft-reschke-webdav-search-17.txt as a Proposed Standard I have reviewed that document and I strongly support

Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread IETF Chair
The IESG is considering an experiment for IETF 73 in Minneapolis, and we would like community comments before we proceed. Face-to-face meeting time is very precious, especially with about 120 IETF WGs competing for meeting slots. Several WGs are not able to get as much meeting time as they need

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread Robert Sparks
I support conducting this experiment. RjS On Jul 17, 2008, at 4:33 PM, IETF Chair wrote: The IESG is considering an experiment for IETF 73 in Minneapolis, and we would like community comments before we proceed. Face-to-face meeting time is very precious, especially with about 120 IETF WGs

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 2:33 PM -0700 7/17/08, IETF Chair wrote: The IESG is considering an experiment for IETF 73 in Minneapolis, and we would like community comments before we proceed. Maybe this could be delayed until the spring meeting in San Francisco. Many people who will bring their families to Minneapolis

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Dear Russ; On Jul 17, 2008, at 5:33 PM, IETF Chair wrote: The IESG is considering an experiment for IETF 73 in Minneapolis, and we would like community comments before we proceed. Face-to-face meeting time is very precious, especially with about 120 IETF WGs competing for meeting slots.

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2008-07-18 09:33, IETF Chair wrote: The IESG is considering an experiment for IETF 73 in Minneapolis, and we would like community comments before we proceed. Face-to-face meeting time is very precious, especially with about 120 IETF WGs competing for meeting slots. Several WGs are not

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread Tony Hansen
It would be be best if the Fri afternoon slot were filled in early rather than as the last slots to be filled in. That way people would have more notice that they're being included in the experiment and there'd be less of a chance of a rude surprise. Tony Brian E Carpenter wrote: On

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread James M. Polk
At 04:33 PM 7/17/2008, IETF Chair wrote: The IESG is considering an experiment for IETF 73 in Minneapolis, 0900-1130 Morning Session I 1130-1300 Break 1300-1400 Afternoon Session I 1415-1515 Afternoon Session II I support this schedule

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:15:04AM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: But please do *design* the experiment - what are you going to measure to find out if it's a success or failure? I agree strongly with this latter point. I've been trying to come up with a measure of success. So far, I

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread Dave Crocker
Brian E Carpenter wrote: But please do *design* the experiment - what are you going to measure to find out if it's a success or failure? +1 For example, exactly what problems are being targeted? Have sessions been getting turned down due to a lack of slots? Are they really sessions

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread Russ Housley
Marshall: Would there be a refreshment break in the afternoon ? No. It is just 15 minutes to get between the two one-hour sessions. The proposed extension to the meeting is 2.25 hours. We regularly have 2.5 hour sessions with no refreshments, so I do not see the need for additional food

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread Adrian Farrel
Is there a cost implication for stripping down the network and other facilities? This usually disappears pretty promptly on Friday, presumably allowing it to be packed up for shipping and the associated staff/volunteers to travel on the Friday. If we extend into the mid afternoon, do we

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread Russ Housley
Brian: The proposed Friday schedule would be: 0900-1130 Morning Session I 1130-1300 Break 1300-1400 Afternoon Session I 1415-1515 Afternoon Session II Try it. We've been having periodical email arguments about Friday afternoon for years; an experiment is the best way to

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread Tony Hansen
One measurement would be the number of conflicts that cannot be resolved with and without the extra slots. Tony Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:15:04AM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: But please do *design* the experiment - what are

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread Olafur Gudmundsson
At 17:33 17/07/2008, IETF Chair wrote: The IESG is considering an experiment for IETF 73 in Minneapolis, and we would like community comments before we proceed. Face-to-face meeting time is very precious, especially with about 120 IETF WGs competing for meeting slots. Several WGs are not

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Dear Russ; After our discussions on this in San Jose, I spent a little time thinking of options for extra meeting time. Here are some more considered thoughts, focusing mostly on costs and meeting logistics, and intended to engender further discussion. I will be ruthless in doing back of

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Olafur, If you recall the Paris meeting, we did try a different mixture of session lengths, and it caused quite some scheduling problems. I'd have to dig out some old email for the details, but it was definitely a problem. So after Paris, we stuck to the late dinner schedule, but went back to a

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread John C Klensin
--On Thursday, 17 July, 2008 18:19 -0400 Tony Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be be best if the Fri afternoon slot were filled in early rather than as the last slots to be filled in. That way people would have more notice that they're being included in the experiment and there'd be

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread Scott O. Bradner
an observation: With today's half day on Friday a good percentage of those people who chose to stay until noon can still catch a flight home that same day in most IETF meeting locations (except for people flying across some ocean). Moving the end time on Friday until 15:15 would cut that

Re: Proposed Experiment: More Meeting Time on Friday for IETF 73

2008-07-17 Thread Bill Manning
what is interesting to me is the weekend factor. for nearly a decade, I've been going to mtgs the wkend before the start of IETF - workshops, training sessions, sidebars, RSSAC mtgs, etc. about five years ago, the -other- suite of interesting/useful meetings started occuring the weekend -after-

Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org

2008-07-17 Thread Thomas Narten
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Last Call: draft-ietf-pce-interas-pcecp-reqs (Inter-AS Requirements for the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP)) to Informational RFC

2008-07-17 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Path Computation Element WG (pce) to consider the following document: - 'Inter-AS Requirements for the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) ' draft-ietf-pce-interas-pcecp-reqs-06.txt as an Informational RFC The IESG plans to make

72nd IETF - Early Bird Registration Cutoff - July 18

2008-07-17 Thread IETF Secretariat
72nd IETF Meeting - Dublin, Ireland July 27-August 1, 2008 Host: Alcatel-Lucent Early-Bird registration cutoff is tomorrow Friday, 18 July at 17:00 PDT (24:00 UTC/GMT). After that time, the registration fee will increase by $150 USD to $785 USD. Only 10 days until the Dublin IETF! Online

Document Action: 'SIV Authenticated Encryption using AES' to Informational RFC

2008-07-17 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'SIV Authenticated Encryption using AES ' draft-dharkins-siv-aes-05.txt as an Informational RFC This document has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product of an IETF Working Group. The IESG contact person is Tim Polk. A URL of this

RFC 5259 on Internet Message Access Protocol - CONVERT Extension

2008-07-17 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5259 Title: Internet Message Access Protocol - CONVERT Extension Author: A. Melnikov, Ed., P. Coates, Ed. Status: Standards