Re: Last Call: draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis (IESG Procedures for Handling of Independent and IRTF Stream Submissions) to BCP

2008-11-16 Thread Jari Arkko
I am pleased to go with: The IESG has concluded that publication could potentially disrupt the IETF work done in WG and recommends not publishing the document at this time. I'm OK with this as well. Jari ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://

Re: Last Call: draft-cheshire-dnsext-dns-sd (DNS-Based Service Discovery) to Informational RFC

2008-11-16 Thread Henning Schulzrinne
Thank you for your review. Can you point me to any standards track IETF documents which might need normative reference to this document? One example: draft-lee-sip-dns-sd-uri-03 Henning ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailm

Re: more bad ideas, was uncooperative DNSBLs, was several messages

2008-11-16 Thread Keith Moore
John Levine wrote: >> For instance, what would happen if mail servers provided feedback to >> both senders (on a per message basis in the form of NDNs) > > Well, since 95% of all mail is spam, and all the spam has fake return > addresses, you'd increase the amount of bogus NDNs by more than an > o

IANA "Office Hours" at IETF-73 in Minneapolis

2008-11-16 Thread Michelle Cotton
Greetings! The IANA will be holding "Office Hours" at the IETF-73 in Minneapolis. This will continue to give everyone an opportunity to discuss IANA Considerations in your documents, requests for registrations in existing registries or any other questions you may have. The IANA will have a table

Re: Last Call: draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl (DNS Blacklists and Whitelists)

2008-11-16 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Florian Weimer writes: > * Stephane Bortzmeyer: > > > Second question, the document indeed standardizes many things which > > are not in common use but does not point towards a rationale, so some > > choices are puzzling. Why TXT records to point to an URL and not

Names of People Encoded On RFID Cards

2008-11-16 Thread Athar Shiraz Siddiqui
Names of people attending SIP / SIPPING who requested before noon Saturday were encoded in NYC and handed to "Omer Boyaci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. The names are located here : http://groups.google.com/group/ietfrfid/files You dont need to login but if its inconvenient email me to request status of y

Re: Last Call: draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl (DNS Blacklists and Whitelists)

2008-11-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mark Andrews: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Florian Weimer writes: >> * Stephane Bortzmeyer: >> >> > Second question, the document indeed standardizes many things which >> > are not in common use but does not point towards a rationale, so some >> > choices are puzzling. Why TXT records to p

Re: Last Call: draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl (DNS Blacklists and Whitelists)

2008-11-16 Thread Chris Lewis
Florian Weimer wrote: > The expectation is that error messages generated from TXT records > contain the actual IP addresses which triggered the DNSBL lookups. As > a result, if you list a /16 (say), you need publish 65,536 different > TXT records. > > Currently, these records are synthesized usi

Re: Last Call: draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl (DNS Blacklists and Whitelists)

2008-11-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mark Andrews: >> >> The lack of a macro capability also means that it's basically >> >> impossible to secure DNSBL zones with DNSSEC when they contain larger >> >> chunks of address space; see the example in section 2.1. >> > >> >How so? >> >> The expectation is that error messages generate

Re: Last Call: draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl (DNS Blacklists and Whitelists)

2008-11-16 Thread John Levine
>The expectation is that error messages generated from TXT records >contain the actual IP addresses which triggered the DNSBL lookups. As >a result, if you list a /16 (say), you need publish 65,536 different >TXT records. Some do, some don't. In any event I agree that DNSSEC is not ideally suite

Re: Last Call: draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl (DNS Blacklists and Whitelists)

2008-11-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Chris Lewis: > Florian Weimer wrote: > >> The expectation is that error messages generated from TXT records >> contain the actual IP addresses which triggered the DNSBL lookups. As >> a result, if you list a /16 (say), you need publish 65,536 different >> TXT records. >> >> Currently, these re

Re: Last Call: draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl (DNS Blacklists and Whitelists)

2008-11-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mark Andrews: >> I didn't say it was a DNSSEC problem. I just wanted to note it's >> impossible to secure some existing DNSBL zones using DNSSEC without >> sacrificing some of the functionality which is mentioned in section >> 2.1 in the draft. > > I still don't believe your claim. I can

Re: Last Call: draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl (DNS Blacklists and Whitelists)

2008-11-16 Thread Chris Lewis
Florian Weimer wrote: > I can't sign a thousand million RRsets and serve it in a DoS-resilient > manner, even with John's partitioning idea (which is rather neat, > thanks!). I may have to keep that in mind if I ever DNSSEC our internal composite DNSBL zone, which has probably near 500M IPs liste

Re: Last Call: draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl (DNS Blacklists and Whitelists)

2008-11-16 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Florian Weimer writes: > * Mark Andrews: > > >> >> The lack of a macro capability also means that it's basically > >> >> impossible to secure DNSBL zones with DNSSEC when they contain larger > >> >> chunks of address space; see the example in section 2.1. > >> > >

Re: Last Call: draft-irtf-asrg-dnsbl (DNS Blacklists and Whitelists)

2008-11-16 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Florian Weimer writes: > * Mark Andrews: > > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Florian Weimer writes: > >> * Stephane Bortzmeyer: > >> > >> > Second question, the document indeed standardizes many things which > >> > are not in common use but does not point toward

Audio Streaming - IETF 73 November 16-21, 2008

2008-11-16 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Greetings, quick update... Streaming got off to a good start with the iepg meeting this (sunday morning). commencing Monday all 8 parallel tracks will be broadcast starting with the at 0900 CST and continue until Friday the 21st at 1515 CST. The links for streaming sources and the schedule are av