Re: The internet architecture

2009-01-01 Thread John Leslie
Tony Finch wrote: > > In fact the use of the term "multihoming" to describe multiple IP > addresses on the same link is a serious problem with practical > consequences. I see no benefit of setting up "multi-homing" without separate links. Routing based on source address is a dangerous practic

Re: The internet architecture

2009-01-01 Thread ned+ietf
> I've been asked twice now in private email to clarify what I mean, so this > is going to turn into a massive rant about how the current Internet > architecture - as it is deployed, and as it seems to be developing - has a > completely broken idea of how to address endpoints. The multiple meanings

multi vendor OSPF

2009-01-01 Thread Masood Ahmad Shah
This link is pointing to something important which we should consider in every IETF and RFC document. http://weblogs.com.pk/jahil/archive/2008/12/30/multi-vendor-ospf-implementat ion-on-juniper-cisco-part-1.aspx ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@

Re: The internet architecture

2009-01-01 Thread John C Klensin
+1 (or +several). From my point of view, we are trying to use the same concepts of "multiple addresses per host" and "multiple hosts per address" to handle a whole series of unrelated things, perhaps with various sorts of virtualization and clustering at one extreme and "one address per interf

2008 IPv4 Address Use Report

2009-01-01 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
[ (Non-cross)posted to IETF discussions, NANOG, PPML, RIPE IPv6 wg, Dutch IPv6 TF. Web version for the monospace font impaired and with some links: http://www.bgpexpert.com/addrspace2008.php ] 2008 IPv4 Address Use Report As of January first, 2009, the number of unused IPv4 addresses is 92

Re: multi vendor OSPF

2009-01-01 Thread Willie Gillespie
Masood Ahmad Shah wrote: This link is pointing to something important which we should consider in every IETF and RFC document. http://weblogs.com.pk/jahil/archive/2008/12/30/multi-vendor-ospf-implementation-on-juniper-cisco-part-1.aspx Actually it's just pointing to your blog. __

Re: The internet architecture

2009-01-01 Thread Tony Finch
On Thu, 1 Jan 2009, John Leslie wrote: > >I'm not at all clear what "support" of "multihoming" Tony is asking > for... I'm not clear either, because I don't know what mechanisms could make it work, especially not mechanisms that are deployable. But what we need is an addressing architecture t

Re: multi vendor OSPF

2009-01-01 Thread AJ Jaghori
I concur. This points to your blog. Take me off future distros that point to unoffical IETF blogs. On 1/1/09, Willie Gillespie wrote: > Masood Ahmad Shah wrote: >> This link is pointing to something important which we should consider in >> every IETF and RFC document. >> >> >> >> http://weblo

Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org

2009-01-01 Thread Thomas Narten
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