Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org

2009-07-09 Thread Thomas Narten
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Testing Complete, Normal Operation Resumed

2009-07-09 Thread Glen
All - Testing of the datatracker has been completed. Normal operations will now be resuming. Message corruption was occurring because of the way the IESG Datatracker was formatting messages. The bugs existed at 9 different locations in the code, which code was of course very old code written ye

Datatracker Testing, Duplicate Last Call Announcements

2009-07-09 Thread Glen
All - There is an ongoing but intermittant problem with the IESG Datatracker corrupting outgoing announcements. My initial attempts to apply patches and wait for the next last calls to go out to see if it worked have failed; I therefore have no choice now but to go to the brute-force method. As

Experiment Results: More Meeting Time on Friday

2009-07-09 Thread The IESG
The IESG conducted an experiment during IETF 73 in Minneapolis and IETF 74 in San Francisco to increase face-to-face meeting time by adding two one hour meeting slots on Friday afternoon. While it is recognized that these meeting slots are not preferred by anyone, these meeting slots have been ve

Re: IETF languages, was: something about RFCs

2009-07-09 Thread james woodyatt
On Jul 9, 2009, at 10:01, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: There are two things that together make it completely impossible to adopt more working languages [...] My point wasn't to argue that we should consider working in non- English languages, but simply to explain why it's reasonable to rule

IETF languages, was: something about RFCs

2009-07-09 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 9 jul 2009, at 18:15, james woodyatt wrote: B) is open for debate: what precisely should be the set of primary natural languages used in IETF documents? Should it continue to be English only? I'd very much prefer to see *that* discussion vigorously deferred while our archival format co

Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required

2009-07-09 Thread james woodyatt
On Jul 3, 2009, at 08:07, Doug Ewell wrote: As always when this discussion occurs, there are at least three different issues swirling around: 1. ASCII-only vs. UTF-8 2. Plain text vs. higher-level formatting, for text flow and readability 3. Whether it is a good idea to include high-qua

Re: XML2RFC must die, was: Re: Two different threads - IETF Document Format

2009-07-09 Thread Russ White
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> If >> we had a DTD that worked in other pieces of software, it could be >> converted using commonly available software into text formats. > > What is supplied with xml2rfc works fine with other pieces of software, > per Ned's response. Perhap

Panel at IETF 75 -- Securing the DNS: Towards a more secure Internet

2009-07-09 Thread Russ Housley
Dear colleagues: Following the success of the Internet Society's IPv6 panel held at the IETF 74 venue, I want to make you aware of panel event to be held during the IETF 75 week in Stockholm, Sweden: Securing the DNS: Towards a more secure Internet 11:45am - 12:45pm (UTC+2), Tuesday 28 July

RE: XML2RFC must die, was: Re: Two different threads - IETF Document Format

2009-07-09 Thread Yaakov Stein
Patrik, > Problem with LaTeX and TeX is the need for class libraries, How is that different from needing the latest tcl code for xml2rfc ? > and the lack of agreed upon way of distributing a > LaTeX/TeX file with the class files needed (part from what is "standard"), > or lack of automatic to

Re: Avoid unknown code sources (was: Re: RFC archival format)

2009-07-09 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 9 jul 2009, at 1:56, Douglas Otis wrote: The concern was voiced in opposition to suggestions for using Word input files as a means to generate inputs for I-D or RFC generation utilities. Nobody suggested that. I said that it would be useful to be able to use a "standard issue" word pr