Re: IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to IETF Trust

2009-08-03 Thread Ole Jacobsen
Until someone digs deeper and finds out there is no deployment and not much of transition plan? ;-) Careful what you wish for. On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, Gregory Lebovitz wrote: > And, maybe more importantly, the message of IETF's work spreads. In > the case of IETF 74.shirt, it's the IPv6 transiti

Re: IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to IETF Trust

2009-08-03 Thread Dave Cridland
On Sat Aug 1 05:40:51 2009, James M. Polk wrote: With that said, I think a discussion needs to occur on the devaluation of the importance of what the shirt means - were it to be distributed to any/many folks that did not attend an IETF. Hmmm... That depends on what you think the shirt means

Re: IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to IETF Trust

2009-08-03 Thread Marc Manthey
Am 03.08.2009 um 11:09 schrieb Dave Cridland: And you might also do that by simply buying the shirt. sorry that i am asking again , where ? Marc -- Les Enfants Terribles - WWW.LET.DE Marc Manthey 50823 Köln - Germany Vogelsangerstr. 97 Mobil:0049-1577-3329231 mail: m...@let.de jabber :m.

Re: IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to IETF Trust

2009-08-03 Thread Tim Chown
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:09:56AM +0100, Dave Cridland wrote: > > Hmmm... That depends on what you think the shirt means. You imply it > means participation - and I'll vocally resist any definition of > participation which mandates attendance as a part of participation, > since you're implic

Re: IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to IETF Trust

2009-08-03 Thread Theodore Tso
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 01:16:17PM +0100, Tim Chown wrote: > > I have another scenario for draft-ietf-more-t-shirts-please, which is the > much loved but heavily faded or worn t-shirt. I really liked my IETF55 > sports-style Nokia IPv6 shirt, but it's now relegated to gardening duty. > A ch

Re: IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to IETF Trust

2009-08-03 Thread Johnny Eriksson
Theodore Tso wrote: > The T-shirt I'd really like to get a reprint of is the "Story of the > Mighty Vasa --- Another Failure of the Seven Layer Model" T-shirt --- > which I think was an IETF shirt, but am not completely certain. If you mean the "Mighty Vasa Sinks on Maiden Voyage" one, with the

Re: IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to IETF Trust

2009-08-03 Thread Marc Manthey
Am 03.08.2009 um 16:45 schrieb Johnny Eriksson: Theodore Tso wrote: The T-shirt I'd really like to get a reprint of is the "Story of the Mighty Vasa --- Another Failure of the Seven Layer Model" T-shirt --- which I think was an IETF shirt, but am not completely certain. If you mean the "Mi

[Fwd: [ntpwg] Last Call: draft-ietf-ntp-dhcpv6-ntp-opt (Network Time Protocol (NTP) Server Option for DHCPv6) to Proposed Standard]

2009-08-03 Thread Todd Glassey
The NTP protocol is inappropriately ONLY adding functionality for other protocols which are already hosted by the entity hosting the NTPWG work and as such this is a HUGE conflict of interest without adding NTP to NEA and other protocols. Todd Glassey Original Message Subjec

Re: [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to IETF Trust

2009-08-03 Thread Dave CROCKER
Fred Baker wrote: On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:40 PM, James M. Polk wrote: this is a choice between "how can the IETF get money?" That is something the Trust would have to think about. What we had been considering was literally licensing a t-shirt company to print the designs and enabling IETFers

RE: [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to IETF Trust

2009-08-03 Thread Knight, Frederick
Not to be a stickler for detail (this isn't an RFC afterall). But, the DEC Unix group was in New Hampshire, and the State motto of New Hampshire is "Live Free or Die". Just to give credit where credit is due. Funny to think of those poor folks in the prisons making the State License plates with

Re: [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to IETF Trust

2009-08-03 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Aug 1, 2009, at 2:08 AM, Fred Baker wrote: On Jul 31, 2009, at 12:49 AM, Gregory M. Lebovitz wrote: Juniper has donated the art for the highly popular IETF74 San Francisco T-shirt (brown, IPv6 World Tour, "concert" concept) to the IETF Trust. Speaking as a Trustee, the Trust thanks Juni

Re: anchor parameter, was: Last Call: draft-nottingham-http-link-header (Web Linking) to Proposed Standard

2009-08-03 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, Julian Reschke wrote: > Ian Hickson wrote: > > ... > > Unless there are really strong use cases, I think that the anchor= attribute > > should be dropped. In practice, implementations today ignore that attribute, > > which would mean that, e.g., a rel=stylesheet;anchor=a link wo

RE: Last Call: draft-turner-deviceowner-attribute (Device OwnerAttribute) to Informational RFC

2009-08-03 Thread Andrew Sciberras (GMAIL)
Hello I have a few minor comments: 1. The definition of the deviceOwner attribute in section 2 indicates: "IDENTIFIED BY id-deviceOwner" This should be updated to reflect the text in Appendix A: "IDENTIFIED BYid-aa-KP-deviceOwner" 2. The ASN.1 definitions

draft-turner-deviceowner-attribute last call comment

2009-08-03 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi Sean, It seems odd to me that the only options for naming a device owner are to use a country code or an OID that might represent a group of countries (or something else). Either this draft is only referring to some very special devices or else its missing *much* more natural identifiers for

Re: [75attendees] IETF74 T-Shirt Art Donated to IETF Trust

2009-08-03 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Dave CROCKER wrote: > > Armando said that he was finally able to say that DEC could offer a Unix > license. He then bent down and held up a license plate that sayd "Unix" > on it, purporting to be from Vermont ("live free or die"). > > This was, of course, a huge success. So DEC's marketing f