Re: meta-issues on charter discussions

2009-08-20 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, August 19, 2009 22:26 +0300 Jari Arkko jari.ar...@piuha.net wrote: ... However, speaking personally, for some reason I'm not too enthusiastic about writing charters in drafts. Perhaps this is just resistance to a change, but I have found it personally easy to deal with the

Re: meta-issues on charter discussions

2009-08-20 Thread Spencer Dawkins
John was actually channeling me accurately in his note - and I wanted to agree that what Jari proposed (when sending charter proposals out for review) is worth doing, and is almost certainly solving a different problem than tracking different versions of charters - so please consider what Jari

Re: meta-issues on charter discussions

2009-08-20 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 09:18:41AM -0400, John C Klensin wrote: think Spencer and I were focused on a slightly earlier part of the process, in which multiple drafts were circulating around in the pre-BOF and immediate post-BOF stages. Those are drafts that people closely involved with the

IAOC Minutes

2009-08-20 Thread John C Klensin
IAOC, I appreciate the effort to bring the minutes up to date and note that there are now documents posted as minutes through 2 and 16 July. However, inspection of those documents shows some things that seem worth calling to your, and the community's, attention. The purpose of posting minutes

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-extractor (Keying Material Exporters for Transport Layer Security (TLS)) to Proposed Standard

2009-08-20 Thread Simon Josefsson
I am aware that the last call period has ended, but maybe this comment will aid IESG processing of the document. After having talked to the SFLC and the FSF about the patent threat on this document, I no longer oppose publication of the tls-extractor document on the standards track. It appears

Re: WG Review: Recharter of Internationalized Domain Names in Applications, Revised (idnabis)

2009-08-20 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 3:17 PM -0400 8/19/09, Vint Cerf wrote: we are so close to the finish line that I don't think it is worth the time and potential controversy to revise the charter beyond giving flexibility on the mapping matter. Fully agree. But I think you misread Thomas' message. He asked for clarity on

Re: WG Review: Recharter of Internationalized Domain Names in Applications, Revised (idnabis)

2009-08-20 Thread Vint Cerf
Thomas, we are so close to the finish line that I don't think it is worth the time and potential controversy to revise the charter beyond giving flexibility on the mapping matter. The notion of including a non-normative mapping document was very late in the process and the charter just

Re: Gen-ART LC/Telechat review of draft-freed-sieve-in-xml-05

2009-08-20 Thread Ben Campbell
The thread so far has gotten difficult to follow, so I'm going to try to reset the conversation. I think we have been disagreeing in 2 areas. The first is how much the document should say about how much semantic knowledge of sieve is expected for editors. On rereading the thread, I think

wanna mail list

2009-08-20 Thread evoup
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Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org

2009-08-20 Thread Thomas Narten
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What is an LC? an AD? an I-D? (was: Re: Update to the IETF Web Site

2009-08-20 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On http://www.ietf.org/glossary.html there are very few terms. Is there a way to add most used acronyms? ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Last Call: draft-daboo-srv-email (Use of SRV records for locating email services) to Proposed Standard

2009-08-20 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Use of SRV records for locating email services ' draft-daboo-srv-email-02.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on

Last Call: draft-ietf-pcn-baseline-encoding (Baseline Encoding and Transport of Pre-Congestion Information) to Proposed Standard

2009-08-20 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Congestion and Pre-Congestion Notification WG (pcn) to consider the following document: - 'Baseline Encoding and Transport of Pre-Congestion Information ' draft-ietf-pcn-baseline-encoding-05.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision

Last Call: draft-iana-ipv4-examples (IPv4 Address Blocks Reserved for Documentation) to Informational RFC

2009-08-20 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'IPv4 Address Blocks Reserved for Documentation ' draft-iana-ipv4-examples-01.txt as an Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on

RFC 5642 on Dynamic Hostname Exchange Mechanism for OSPF

2009-08-20 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5642 Title: Dynamic Hostname Exchange Mechanism for OSPF Author: S. Venkata, S. Harwani, C. Pignataro, D. McPherson Status:

RFC 5624 on Quality of Service Parameters for Usage with Diameter

2009-08-20 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5624 Title: Quality of Service Parameters for Usage with Diameter Author: J. Korhonen, Ed., H. Tschofenig, E. Davies