Re: NAT Not Needed To Make Renumbering Easy

2009-10-25 Thread AJ Jaghori
Unless you have stringent NAT policies (e.g. multi Firewalls that require it outside your Enterprise), then there is no shortage of IP space in v6. What is your primary concern? AJ Jaghori On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu < m...@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com> wrote: > Not in th

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2009-10-25 Thread Joel Jaeggli
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Re: NAT Not Needed To Make Renumbering Easy

2009-10-25 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
On 25 Oct 2009, at 17:42, Noel Chiappa wrote: From: Sabahattin Gucukoglu in particular: we need a simple way to express host relationships inside an organisation that is independent of external homing. Well, it would really help if we had more namespaces available to name things in. Oh, wa

Re: NAT Not Needed To Make Renumbering Easy

2009-10-25 Thread Masataka Ohta
Andrew G. Malis wrote: > One thing that IPv6 NAT has in advantage to IPv4 NAT is that it can be > stateless, isomorphic, and port transparent by just translating the > upper part of the address, Not at all. Unless the NAT have end to end transparency, statefull trasnration of raw IP addresses in

Re: NAT Not Needed To Make Renumbering Easy

2009-10-25 Thread Andrew G. Malis
Sabahattin, Note that IPv6 NAT makes multihoming to different ISPs much easier as well. One thing that IPv6 NAT has in advantage to IPv4 NAT is that it can be stateless, isomorphic, and port transparent by just translating the upper part of the address, such as in the case where an enterprise is

Re: NAT Not Needed To Make Renumbering Easy

2009-10-25 Thread Masataka Ohta
Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > in particular: we need a simple way to > express host relationships inside an organisation that is independent > of external homing. If renumbering is not a problem, it is simple and easy to do so with IPv4. You can assign both private and public addresseses to

Re: NAT Not Needed To Make Renumbering Easy

2009-10-25 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Sabahattin Gucukoglu > in particular: we need a simple way to express host relationships > inside an organisation that is independent of external homing. Well, it would really help if we had more namespaces available to name things in. Oh, wait... Noel

NAT Not Needed To Make Renumbering Easy

2009-10-25 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Not in the IPv6 address space, anyway. And if it is, there's something wrong and we should put it right. Just been reading IAB's commentary on IPv6 NAT. It seems to me that we are perpetuating the worst technology in existence *simply* for one feature, network mobility, that is better ser