Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPR rules)

2009-11-18 Thread Brian E Carpenter
How about the IESG simply rescinds its decision in this week's meeting? I don't see any need for an appeal; if there's a prima facie violation of the disclosure rules, it's just a management item. Much less bother than an appeal. Of course, the rescission would be subject to appeal, but that's ano

RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPR rules)

2009-11-18 Thread Cullen Jennings
On October 8, the IESG approved the registration of application/3gpp- ims+xml Media Type. On Nov 2, RIM filed an IPR disclosure related to this at https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1219/ The associated patent, filed Oct 2008, is at http://www.google.com/patents?id=Mk7GEBAJ and the rel

RIM patents a URN (and ignores IETF IPR rules)

2009-11-18 Thread Cullen Jennings
I'd like to draw peoples attention to the IPR disclosure https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1213 on http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn The associated patent seems to be http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=O7qXEBAJ Let me point out Mr. Allen is an author of both a

Re: Last Call: draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns (Multicast DNS) to Informational RFC

2009-11-18 Thread Bob Hinden
On Nov 18, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Paul Vixie wrote: >>> The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider >>> the following document: >>> >>> - 'Multicast DNS ' >>>as an Informational RFC >>> >>> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits >>> fin

Re: Last Call: draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns (Multicast DNS) to Informational RFC

2009-11-18 Thread Peter Dambier
Cullen Jennings wrote: > > Can someone walk me through the pro/cons of this being standards track > vs informational? > Apple supports it. Linux supports it (mostly). BSD supports it (mostly). So half the world supports it. When Microsoft too supports it, it is a standard. I do support it (bec

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC review of draft-dusseault-http-patch-15.txt

2009-11-18 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Roy, At this point I think we're arguing in a circle, so I will simply wait to see what the authors and Area Director want to do next. A Gen-ART review has no more standing than any other Last Call comment. Regards Brian Carpenter On 2009-11-18 15:18, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > On Nov 17, 2009,

SECDIR review of draft-ietf-pkix-new-asn1-07

2009-11-18 Thread Richard Barnes
I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area directors. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments jus

Re: Last Call: draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns (Multicast DNS) to Informational RFC

2009-11-18 Thread Paul Vixie
> >The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider > >the following document: > > > >- 'Multicast DNS ' > > as an Informational RFC > > > >The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits > >final comments on this action. Please send substantive co

Re: Last Call: draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns (Multicast DNS) to Informational RFC

2009-11-18 Thread Dave Cridland
On Wed Nov 18 15:41:18 2009, Cullen Jennings wrote: Can someone walk me through the pro/cons of this being standards track vs informational? Cons: For one thing, it's a lot of work to make a specification like this up to the quality of the standards-track. Some of the 20 or so mentions

Re: Question about draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis-12

2009-11-18 Thread ned+ietf
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:54:35PM +1300, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > > > Since we're (presumably) trying to write rules that will > > work when common sense has failed, it seems prudent to have > > a clear path for disputes of an unknown nature. > I get the sentiment, and I think it comes from

Re: Question about draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis-12

2009-11-18 Thread John Levine
>If we get to the point where the IESG, the RFC Editor, and the IAB >can't among them work out a sensible compromise (because common sense >has failed), then we have much bigger problems than getting things >published on the Independent Submissions track. +1 We're software and network guys (and g

Re: Last Call: draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns (Multicast DNS) to Informational RFC

2009-11-18 Thread Cullen Jennings
Can someone walk me through the pro/cons of this being standards track vs informational? Thanks, Cullen ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: Question about draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis-12

2009-11-18 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:54:35PM +1300, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > Since we're (presumably) trying to write rules that will > work when common sense has failed, it seems prudent to have > a clear path for disputes of an unknown nature. I get the sentiment, and I think it comes from a noble im

Re: secdir review of draft-melnikov-imap-keywords-06

2009-11-18 Thread Alexey Melnikov
Hi Samuel, Thank you for the review. Samuel Weiler wrote: I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area directors. Docume