Re: Last Call: draft-jabley-sink-arpa (The Eternal Non-Existence of SINK.ARPA (and other stories)) to BCP

2009-12-28 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Joe Abley writes: I'm saying that the body that administers the root zone is not the IETF. Not being a policy person I don't have any specific fears, but I'll observe that the set of people who make policy that affects administration of the root zone has a fairly small intersection with the

Re: Defining the existence of non-existent domains

2009-12-28 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
John Levine writes: If other people agree that it's a good idea to have a place that IANA can point to for the reserved names, I'd be happy to move this ahead. Or if we think the situation is OK as it is, we can forget about it. I'd be happier with some sort of list (I was surprised by its

Re: Defining the existence of non-existent domains

2009-12-28 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
I seem to have a problem with short words this week (can, to etc.). They spontanteously mutate or disappear. Sorry. Arnt ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: Defining the existence of non-existent domains

2009-12-28 Thread Jorge Amodio
I think that in regards to the management and supervision of .ARPA I'd suggest to include RFC3172 and RFC2860 as a reference. I find that using the word Registry will IMHO create some confusion with ICANNland. The list of reserved names from ICANN's DAGv3 2.1.1.2 you included in your message

RE: Defining the existence of non-existent domains

2009-12-28 Thread De Zeurkous
Haai, [not replying to anyone in particular] I think we should make and maintain a seperation between two classes of (reserved) symbols according to their fundamentally different origins: -Required for one or more protocols to correctly function; and -Reserved for administrative purposes (which

Re: Defining the existence of non-existent domains

2009-12-28 Thread Olafur Gudmundsson
At 05:38 28/12/2009, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: John Levine writes: If other people agree that it's a good idea to have a place that IANA can point to for the reserved names, I'd be happy to move this ahead. Or if we think the situation is OK as it is, we can forget about it. I'd be happier

Re: Defining the existence of non-existent domains

2009-12-28 Thread J.D. Falk
On Dec 28, 2009, at 3:38 AM, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: I'd be happier with some sort of list (I was surprised by its length, and IMO that's a sign that the list is needed) and like your document. +1 I can think of all sorts of other use cases for such a list, such as verifying the accuracy of

Announcement of the new Trust Legal Provisions (TLP 4.0)

2009-12-28 Thread Marshall Eubanks
. A stable URI for the TLP effective 28 December, 2009 is http://trustee.ietf.org/docs/IETF-Trust-License-Policy-20091228.pdf . The new document updating the Trust Legal Provisions was approved by the Trustees after a consideration of last call comments in a telechat on December 17, 2009, subject

Re: Defining the existence of non-existent domains

2009-12-28 Thread Reed Loden
On 28 Dec 2009 01:16:47 - John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: Here's their reserved list: ... LOCALHOST This one caught my eye, as I know for sure that localhost.tld seems to be registered in most TLDs (both gTLDs and ccTLDs) by actual users (mostly because I recently looked into purchasing

Re: Defining the existence of non-existent domains

2009-12-28 Thread John Levine
Here's their reserved list: ... LOCALHOST This one caught my eye, as I know for sure that localhost.tld seems to be registered in most TLDs (both gTLDs and ccTLDs) by actual users (mostly because I recently looked into purchasing one such domain). ICANN reserves LOCALHOST as a TLD, not as a

Re: Defining the existence of non-existent domains

2009-12-28 Thread John Levine
[ re _proto and _service names ] See: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-gudmundsson-dnsext-srv-clarify-00.txt and older version of that is being split (second half is to contain the registry cleanups). http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gudmundsson-dns-srv-iana-registry-04 Yes, I noticed that. As far

Re: Announcement of the new Trust Legal Provisions (TLP 4.0)

2009-12-28 Thread Julian Reschke
Marshall Eubanks wrote: ... This message is to announce that the IETF Trustees have adopted on a new version of the Trust Legal Provisions (TLP), to be effective 28 December, 2009. The Grace period for old-boilerplate will begin on that date, and last through 1 February, 2010. ... So, unless

Re: Defining the existence of non-existent domains

2009-12-28 Thread John R. Levine
Since underscore labels are not considered normal DNS labels for domains representing (roughly) physical hosts and networks, everything below the topmost underscore label should not need to go in a central repository for underscore labels but be pointed to by the documentation referenced for the

Re: Announcement of the new Trust Legal Provisions (TLP 4.0)

2009-12-28 Thread Sam Hartman
Julian == Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de writes: Julian Marshall Eubanks wrote: ... This message is to announce that the IETF Trustees have adopted on a new version of the Trust Legal Provisions (TLP), to be effective 28 December, 2009. The Grace period for

Re: Announcement of the new Trust Legal Provisions (TLP 4.0)

2009-12-28 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2009-12-29 16:02, Sam Hartman wrote: Julian == Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de writes: Julian Marshall Eubanks wrote: ... This message is to announce that the IETF Trustees have adopted on a new version of the Trust Legal Provisions (TLP), to be effective 28

Announcement of the new Trust Legal Provisions (TLP 4.0)

2009-12-28 Thread Marshall Eubanks
. A stable URI for the TLP effective 28 December, 2009 is http://trustee.ietf.org/docs/IETF-Trust-License-Policy-20091228.pdf . The new document updating the Trust Legal Provisions was approved by the Trustees after a consideration of last call comments in a telechat on December 17, 2009, subject