LDIF Standard

Hi, I am implementing a parser for LDIF, working off the document here: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2849. A ldif-change file has a changetype: possibly after some control: lines. This changetype line seems to be the only difference between change and content ldif files. However, looking closely

Re: Announcing Clouds bar BoF during IETF-77 (March, 2010, Anaheim, CA)

Chuckle? Not really. This is depressing. So maybe the IETF should smile and stand back politely. Brian On 2010-02-23 14:05, Jeff Wheeler (jewheele) wrote: > actually in the DMTF Telco WG we're completing a 3-month study of the > metrics and data artifacts used by the various SDOs, consortia

RE: Announcing Clouds bar BoF during IETF-77 (March, 2010, Anaheim, CA)

actually in the DMTF Telco WG we're completing a 3-month study of the metrics and data artifacts used by the various SDOs, consortia and forum currently involved in their own formal cloud standards and the count is 27, that without the vendors inter-cloud management interfaces. chuckle -

Re: Announcing Clouds bar BoF during IETF-77 (March, 2010, Anaheim, CA)

> If you're proposing OGF you should look at the 6 or 7 other SDOs doing > useful work on clouds, e.g. the DMTF.  It's a complex situation. I would have said "ridiculous" actually. So much standards energy, so little shipping technology. -Tim ___ Ietf m

Re: Announcing Clouds bar BoF during IETF-77 (March, 2010, Anaheim, CA)

Brian E Carpenter allegedly wrote on 02/22/2010 17:11 EST: > Well yes, everybody's right in this area, since the terminology > is so fuzzy and so infected by marketing noise. In any case, I am > not for a moment saying: don't hold a Bar BOF. It seems like an > excellent idea to talk about it. What

Re: Announcing Clouds bar BoF during IETF-77 (March, 2010, Anaheim, CA)

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Dave CROCKER wrote: > > As already noted, the term 'cloud' is now used in many different ways, > including as a synonym for 'network' and for 'Internet', even amongst > technical folk. (Really.) I get the impression that this was the original usage, from diagrams where the net

Re: Announcing Clouds bar BoF during IETF-77 (March, 2010, Anaheim, CA)

On Feb 22, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: For defining 'cloud', one group I'm participating in decided it was happy with the NIST language: I can live with that. Melinda ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listi

Re: Announcing Clouds bar BoF during IETF-77 (March, 2010, Anaheim, CA)

Well yes, everybody's right in this area, since the terminology is so fuzzy and so infected by marketing noise. In any case, I am not for a moment saying: don't hold a Bar BOF. It seems like an excellent idea to talk about it. What I am saying is: our sister standards body the OGF seems like the na

Re: Announcing Clouds bar BoF during IETF-77 (March, 2010, Anaheim, CA)

I agree with Dave and offer the following article (in two parts) for further background reading. (The second part will be available in printed form in Anaheim): http://www.cisco.com/web/about/ac123/ac147/archived_issues/ipj_12-3/123_cloud1.html and http://www.cisco.com/web/about/ac123/ac147/a

Re: Announcing Clouds bar BoF during IETF-77 (March, 2010, Anaheim, CA)

On 2/22/2010 12:59 PM, Melinda Shore wrote: On Feb 22, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: My thought exactly. The distinction between cloud computing and open grid computing is very small (or possibly zero) With all due respect, Brian, it's really not. With cloud computing you're ty

Re: Announcing Clouds bar BoF during IETF-77 (March, 2010, Anaheim, CA)

On Feb 22, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: My thought exactly. The distinction between cloud computing and open grid computing is very small (or possibly zero) With all due respect, Brian, it's really not. With cloud computing you're typically dealing with multitenanting issues a

Re: Announcing Clouds bar BoF during IETF-77 (March, 2010, Anaheim, CA)

On 2010-02-23 07:07, Michael Richardson wrote: >> "Dan" == Dan Romascanu writes: > >> A new alias has been created for discussion on this topic: > Dan> clo...@ietf.org . > > Dan> Do you mean a mail list? Can you provide subscribe information? > > The par

Re: Announcing Clouds bar BoF during IETF-77 (March, 2010, Anaheim, CA)

> "Dan" == Dan Romascanu writes: >> A new alias has been created for discussion on this topic: Dan> clo...@ietf.org . Dan> Do you mean a mail list? Can you provide subscribe information? The participants are aware of the work occuring in the Open Grid F

Re: Announcing Clouds bar BoF during IETF-77 (March, 2010, Anaheim, CA)

On 2/22/2010 9:38 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: A new alias has been created for discussion on this topic: clo...@ietf.org . Do you mean a mail list? Can you provide subscribe information? d/ -- Dave Crocker B

RE: Announcing Clouds bar BoF during IETF-77 (March, 2010, Anaheim, CA)

> A new alias has been created for discussion on this topic: clo...@ietf.org . Do you mean a mail list? Can you provide subscribe information? Thanks and Regards, Dan From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ie

Announcing Clouds bar BoF during IETF-77 (March, 2010, Anaheim, CA)

Dear All, We wish to inform you of the intent to have a bar BoF during the IETF-77 meeting in Anaheim, CA (_March 21-26, 2010_) on defining applications/services and their provisioning/management over cloud-based system (A/SPOCS). A new alias has been created for discussion on this topic: clo...@