RE: Last Call: draft-lawrence-sipforum-user-agent-config (Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) User Agent Configuration) to Informational RFC

2010-04-07 Thread Elwell, John
Just catching up on this discussion, after a period of absence. As chair of the SIP Forum Task Group that carried out this work, I concur with the summary below from Scott and also his various earlier postings answering questions raised on this list - thanks Scott. A further comment below. >

Re: Last Call: draft-lawrence-sipforum-user-agent-config (Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) User Agent Configuration) to Informational RFC

2010-04-07 Thread Scott Lawrence
A general note on the history of this document and the context in which it was developed, in hopes of illuminating why it has some of the features that you don't like... This was created as a SIP Forum document to guide the interaction between User Agents and the Configuration Service for a SIP do

Re: Last Call: draft-lawrence-sipforum-user-agent-config (Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) User Agent Configuration) to Informational RFC

2010-04-07 Thread Scott Lawrence
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:59 -0700, Dave CROCKER wrote: > > On 4/6/2010 9:34 AM, Scott Lawrence wrote: > >> What is the justification that mandates a more complex model than > >> these use? It's not usually considered sufficient to simply cite the fact > >> that > >> some operators somewhere want

Re: Last Call: draft-lawrence-sipforum-user-agent-config (SessionInitiation Protocol (SIP) User AgentConfiguration) to Informational RFC

2010-04-07 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 4/7/2010 9:52 AM, Spencer Dawkins wrote: A better analogy would be the full configuration information for a router - would anyone argue that only being able to change the configuration of router once every 24 hours would be sufficient? Each SIP UA is like an Internet Router? Dave, I und

Re: Last Call: draft-lawrence-sipforum-user-agent-config (SessionInitiation Protocol (SIP) User AgentConfiguration) to Informational RFC

2010-04-07 Thread Spencer Dawkins
A better analogy would be the full configuration information for a router - would anyone argue that only being able to change the configuration of router once every 24 hours would be sufficient? Each SIP UA is like an Internet Router? Dave, I understood Scott's point to be that the amount of

Re: Last Call: draft-lawrence-sipforum-user-agent-config (Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) User Agent Configuration) to Informational RFC

2010-04-07 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 4/6/2010 9:34 AM, Scott Lawrence wrote: What is the justification that mandates a more complex model than these use? It's not usually considered sufficient to simply cite the fact that some operators somewhere want something different. There needs to be a compelling case made. It is alway

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