Re: Idea for IPv4 addition or extension

2010-04-16 Thread Matthew
Thanks for the comments and the forward to r...@irtf.org. Geographic was just an example; I left it intentionally vague for discussion purposes. It partially borrows from OSI's addressing but with the twist of full IPv4 address support and the fact that there are at least 3 distinct parts to

Re: Idea for IPv4 addition or extension

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Brim
Unfortunately there isn't much new under the sun. This appears to be a combination of geographic addressing (various sources, e.g. Steve Deering and Tony Hain) and RFC1955. Geographic addressing has deployability issues -- search for archives of those arguments. The problem with mapping based on

Idea for IPv4 addition or extension

2010-04-16 Thread Matthew
I would like to propose the following concept for discussion. The idea is to either extend IPv4 or create a new protocol that would work with IPv4 in order to allow a backwards compatible, yet hierarchical addressing model. The format is ruff and I wish others to evaluate its feasibility. The gene

Re: Gen-ART (belated) LC Review of draft-ietf-nsis-nslp-natfw-23

2010-04-16 Thread Ben Campbell
Hi, thanks for the response. Comments inline. I removed sections for issues that I think are closed: On Apr 9, 2010, at 6:53 AM, Martin Stiemerling wrote: [...] >> >> -- section 3.2.8, "transitory" bullet: "When a node has received a >> NOTIFY message, it >> marks the signaling session as

Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-netmod-yang-types-08

2010-04-16 Thread Ben Campbell
I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html). Please wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD before posting a new version of the draft. Document: d

Homegate Workshop Canceled Due to Icelandic Volcanic Ash Travel Disruptions

2010-04-16 Thread Jason Livingood
Much of Europe is currently experiencing severe travel restrictions resulting from a drifting ash cloud from a volcanic eruption at the Eyjafjallajokull glacier in Iceland that are expected to last at least throughout the coming weekend. Consequently, we have decided to ***CANCEL*** the IETF HomeG

RE: SCTP Mulithoming Communication PATHS Query

2010-04-16 Thread Sambasiva Rao Manchili
Hallo Xiangsong, Thanks a lot for the detailed mail. >> It seems there is firewall between host-X and host-Y, so the cross path >> packets can not reach the destination? There is no fire wall but two separate routers each carrying a path and these routers are not connected as well. >>1. to mark

RE: [PWE3] Posting of IPR Disclosure related to Cisco's Statement of IPR relating to draft-ietf-pwe3-oam-msg-map-12

2010-04-16 Thread Yaakov Stein
In the IETF meta-discussions on the idea of discussing IPR are more liable to become ratholes than the IPR discussion itself. Even worse is the meta-meta discussion on whether to restrict ourselves to using ASCII in the meta-discussion :) IPR SHOULD be discussed by the WG, and this discussion is

Re: [PWE3] Posting of IPR Disclosure related to Cisco's Statement of IPR relating to draft-ietf-pwe3-oam-msg-map-12

2010-04-16 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
ObDeclaration: I am also a practitioner in this field. I see no problem with people making purely factual claims such as 'Document X may constitute prior art with respect to some of the claims'. Making conclusions is where the problem might lie, if that is someone was foolish enough to consider c

Re: [PWE3] Posting of IPR Disclosure related to Cisco's Statement of IPR relating to draft-ietf-pwe3-oam-msg-map-12

2010-04-16 Thread Donald Eastlake
There is no such rule in the IETF, although perhaps patent discussions need some moderation to avoid becoming ratholes. To quote some pieces of text from RFC 3669 (which I recommend you read in full): "It's all right, and sometimes beneficial, to discuss IPR claims and gather information abo

RE: [PWE3] Posting of IPR Disclosure related to Cisco's Statement of IPR relating to draft-ietf-pwe3-oam-msg-map-12

2010-04-16 Thread Yaakov Stein
Todd, My email to the PWE list and to my co-authors was neither about scope nor validity. The trigger was an email from the IETF Secretariat informing the co-authors of draft-ietf-pwe3-oam-msg-map of a new IPR disclosure. I had recently finished extensive editorial work in this draft, and in

Re: SCTP Mulithoming Communication PATHS Query

2010-04-16 Thread Xiangsong Cui
Hi Samba, It seems there is firewall between host-X and host-Y, so the cross path packets can not reach the destination? In my understanding, some aspects may impact the result. As far as I know, different vendors maybe provide different implementation. some provide parallel path, like

Re: SCTP Mulithoming Communication PATHS Query

2010-04-16 Thread Xiangsong Cui
Hi Samba, It seems there is firewall between host-X and host-Y, so the cross path packets can not reach the destination? In my understanding, some aspects may impact the result. As far as I know, different vendors maybe provide different implementation. some provide parallel path, like