Re: The anonymity question

2010-07-25 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jul 24, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: John Levine asked: Some people have argued that it should be possible to participate in some or all IETF processes while remaining partly or completely anonymous. Is this a reasonable expectation? No. Anonymous or pseudonymous contri

Re: The anonymity question

2010-07-25 Thread todd glassey
On 7/25/2010 8:34 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: > On 7/25/10 6:21 AM, Fred Baker wrote: >> On Jul 25, 2010, at 6:07 AM, John R. Levine wrote: >> >>> The ability of users to sign up from throwaway accounts doesn't >>> seem to have been a big problem in practice, but it does make it >>> hard to claim that

Re: The anonymity question

2010-07-25 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 7/25/10 6:21 AM, Fred Baker wrote: > > On Jul 25, 2010, at 6:07 AM, John R. Levine wrote: > >> The ability of users to sign up from throwaway accounts doesn't >> seem to have been a big problem in practice, but it does make it >> hard to claim that the lists are free of submarine patent trolls

RE: tools location

2010-07-25 Thread Thomson, Martin
> Safari on the Mac doesn't seem to be able to find its location at all, > though. And as there's no GPS reception indoors (certainly not without > any windows) I doubt _any_ system could provide a location that is > accurate enough to be usable here. The system is actually there based on an old G

Re: tools location

2010-07-25 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Geoip says you're in fremont ca, how's that for anonymity? Joel's iPad On Jul 25, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > On 25 jul 2010, at 15:29, Scott Brim wrote: > >> Are we resurrecting that marvelous app that shows where you are based on >> wifi? > > Yes. The Google streetview

Re: tools location

2010-07-25 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 25 jul 2010, at 15:29, Scott Brim wrote: > Are we resurrecting that marvelous app that shows where you are based on wifi? Yes. The Google streetview + wifi snooping truck should make its round through the MECC shortly, please don't stand in its way. ___

Re: tools location

2010-07-25 Thread Scott Brim
On 07/25/2010 14:34 GMT+02:00, Thomson, Martin wrote: Why? This is the venue map page: http://tools.ietf.org/rooms ? The reason is so that it can display where you are on the map. Are we resurrecting that marvelous app that shows where you are based on wifi? ___

Re: tools location

2010-07-25 Thread Henrik Levkowetz
On 2010-07-25 14:45 DM Abreu said the following: > It did come up on my mobile and ask me to use my location > > But I did not see a map of where I was ; only of the floor plans of meeting > room etc The functionality may be broken. It was introduced and tested a few years ago, but haven't be

Re: tools location

2010-07-25 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2010-7-25, at 14:19, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > Why? You've made it onto the IAB watch list. They like to geo-track the troublemakers. Lars smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.iet

Re: tools location

2010-07-25 Thread DM Abreu
It did come up on my mobile and ask me to use my location But I did not see a map of where I was ; only of the floor plans of meeting room etc Sent from my mobile On Jul 25, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > On 25 jul 2010, at 14:34, Thomson, Martin wrote: > >> This is the ven

Re: tools location

2010-07-25 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 25 jul 2010, at 14:34, Thomson, Martin wrote: > This is the venue map page: http://tools.ietf.org/rooms ? > The reason is so that it can display where you are on the map. Right. I had opened this page in a background tab so I didn't make the connection. Safari on the Mac doesn't seem to be

RE: tools location

2010-07-25 Thread Thomson, Martin
> Why? This is the venue map page: http://tools.ietf.org/rooms ? The reason is so that it can display where you are on the map. Critically, this is a failure on the part of the page. As with any such page, it should make a clear case for why you should hit "allow". --Martin p.s. UI design do

tools location

2010-07-25 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
Why? <>___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: The anonymity question

2010-07-25 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 7/25/10 11:45 AM, Bob Hinden wrote: > > On Jul 24, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > >> John Levine asked: >> >>> Some people have argued that it should be possible to participate in some >>> or all IETF processes while remaining partly or completely anonymous. Is >>> this a reas

Re: The anonymity question

2010-07-25 Thread Bob Hinden
On Jul 24, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > John Levine asked: > >> Some people have argued that it should be possible to participate in some or >> all IETF processes while remaining partly or completely anonymous. Is this >> a reasonable expectation? > > No. Anonymous or pseudon