Re: Ad Hoc BOFs

2010-08-01 Thread Yoav Nir
On Aug 1, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Melinda Shore wrote: > Yoav Nir wrote: >> Who's "folks"? A lot of people come to an IETF meeting, and are >> only following one or two of the working groups. That does not mean >> that they sit in their hotel rooms for the rest of the meeting. >> Instead, they pick wh

Re: Ad Hoc BOFs

2010-08-01 Thread Joel M. Halpern
In hallway discussion about this, it was suggested to me that part of the problem is that some folks can not figure out how to socialize their ideas. If ideas are really preliminary, sitting down with 4-6 other folks who are skilled and informed on the particular topic to discuss the idea, an

Re: Ad Hoc BOFs

2010-08-01 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 7/31/2010 1:00 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: or perhaps many drafts are written in such a way that folks can't easily grok the problem and its proposed solution. Regarding the latter, one of the WGs I advise held a small "tutorial" session in a side room on Friday morning and that turned out

Re: Ad Hoc BOFs

2010-08-01 Thread Donald Eastlake
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > ... > 1) If there is no I-D and no mailing list, then no, you can not have a room > suitable for 50+ people. > ... > +10**10 If there is no ID and no mailing list at least several weeks in advance, you should either have a real bar BoF wi