Re: The Implications of 6rd and ARIN 2010-9

2010-10-13 Thread Rémi Després
Hi Marshall, Thanks for this update about ARIN's work. Comments below. Le 12 oct. 2010 à 17:06, Marshall Eubanks a écrit : ... What worries me (and others) is that to give end users an IPv6 /56 will generally require the assignments as short as /24s to ISPs, due to the encapsulation of v4

Re: The Implications of 6rd and ARIN 2010-9

2010-10-13 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Oct 12, 2010, at 7:02 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: In message 992df93e-1efb-4d68-bdd7-d5c7be02f...@americafree.tv, Marshall Euba nks writes: Hello; I think that people here would be interested in (and likely concerned by) the ARIN 2010-9 proposal :

RE: US DoD and IPv6

2010-10-13 Thread Fleischman, Eric
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Dave CROCKER d...@dcrocker.netmailto:d...@dcrocker.net wrote: On 10/11/2010 8:25 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: Without getting into the question of whether your suggestion would have helped anything in terms of transition and interoperability, it shares one

Re: US DoD and IPv6

2010-10-13 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
I would hope that a practical benefit of IPv6 would be improved performance as a result of support for large packets. That said, I expect to be disappointed. I had really hoped that IEEE would have made support for jumbo frames an absolute requirement for all gigabit ethernet. But no, its an

Re: US DoD and IPv6

2010-10-13 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
When the big dig was going on in Boston, an entire interchange had to be constructed was used for some years and then torn down again. The cost of the interchange was in the high tens of millions of dollars. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Dave CROCKER d...@dcrocker.net wrote: Perhaps

Re: US DoD and IPv6

2010-10-13 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
The original idea seems to have been that IPSEC would be a big enough incentive to upgrade. Since then IPSEC has been separated out and we have discovered that packet layer security is not nearly so useful as transport layer. Back in PARC there was a think called error 33: building research on

Re: US DoD and IPv6

2010-10-13 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2010-10-13 12:46, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: The original idea seems to have been that IPSEC would be a big enough incentive to upgrade. I've been keeping out of this conversation because I have other things to do, like working on effective technologies for v4/v6 coexistence, but I have to

Re: US DoD and IPv6

2010-10-13 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 10/13/2010 4:27 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: I have to protest at this version of the IPv6 is more secure myth. I don't think anybody ever advanced this as a serious technical incentive. I heard the most august Howard Schmidt make a simple and direct claim that it was, a few years

Fwd: [Geopriv] I-D Action:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-lbyr-uri-option-09.txt

2010-10-13 Thread todd glassey
This is fine until any of this is done over an encrypted or byte-manipulated transport and then it will infringe into the Glassey Patent for which an already existing IPR Notice regarding geoGraphic Control Codes used in specifying location based services, is on file. Todd Glassey, IPR Owner.

Re: US DoD and IPv6

2010-10-13 Thread Masataka Ohta
Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: I would hope that a practical benefit of IPv6 would be improved performance as a result of support for large packets. That is, like almost all the other ambitiously extended functionality of IPv6, an illusion. I had really hoped that IEEE would have made support

Re: US DoD and IPv6

2010-10-13 Thread Masataka Ohta
Brian E Carpenter wrote: What was always pointed out is that IPv6 use of IPsec doesn't have to deal with NAT traversal, which was an issue for IPv4 use of IPsec, It should be noted that IPsec, including AH, works transparently over port restricted IP, including end to end NAT, if a 4B SPI is

Protocol Action: 'Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching (GMPLS) control of Ethernet Provider Backbone Traffic Engineering (PBB-TE)' to Proposed Standard

2010-10-13 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching (GMPLS) control of Ethernet Provider Backbone Traffic Engineering (PBB-TE) ' draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-06.txt as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Common Control

New Non-WG Mailing List: yaco-wgchair-tracker -- Discussion of the Yaco / WG Chairs' and Authors' Tracker Project

2010-10-13 Thread IETF Secretariat
A new IETF non-working group email list has been created. List address: yaco-wgchair-trac...@ietf.org Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/yaco-wgchair-tracker/ To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yaco-wgchair-tracker Description: Discussion of the Yaco / WG Chairs' and

New Non-WG Mailing List: maitai -- Multi-stream Attributes for Improving Telepresence Application Interoperability

2010-10-13 Thread IETF Secretariat
A new IETF non-working group email list has been created. List address: mai...@ietf.org (Multi-stream Attributes for Improving Telepresence Application Interoperability) Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/maitai/ To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/maitai Description: