RE: Proposed WG and BOF Scheduling Experiment

2010-11-07 Thread gregory.cauchie
I support the effort, but not the timing. Maybe having an hour reserved at each end of the day for BoFs would be a compromise (just an idea popping right now). > -Message d'origine- > De : ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de > Henk Uijterwaal > Envoyé : lun

Re: Proposed WG and BOF Scheduling Experiment

2010-11-07 Thread Henk Uijterwaal
I think having the BOFs early in the week is a good idea but I'd modify the proposal a bit. Background: At this meeting, we have 8 BOFs. There are also 7 or 8 meetings in each of the sessions (9-11:30, 1-3, 3-4). Scheduling all 8 BOFs at the same time will maximize overlap between them but oth

Re: Proposed WG and BOF Scheduling Experiment

2010-11-07 Thread Barry Leiba
>> Hmm. How many non-overlapping time slots? It would be extremely >> frustrating if there was a lot of overlap between BOFs. Some of us >> are interested in almost any new topic. My first reaction is to prefer >> the BOFs spread out. I'm not sure that concentrating them will reduce >> the problem

Transcript during the Technical Plenary

2010-11-07 Thread IAB Chair
Dear Colleagues We have arranged for transcription for this evenings plenary session. Please consider this a best-effort service as our regular transcriptionist is not able to join she will be transcribing by following the audio feed remotely. We will project the transcripts on screens on th

Re: CORRECTION: Beijing TSV area "office hours"

2010-11-07 Thread Scott Brim
Are office hours on the wiki? ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

CORRECTION: Beijing TSV area "office hours"

2010-11-07 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2010-11-8, at 11:32, Eggert Lars (Nokia-NRC/Espoo) wrote: > the TSV area "office hours" are Tue 15:20-17:00 in Diamond 3. Correction: Diamond *** 2 *** Lars smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org ht

FW: NomCom 2010-2011: Announcing Beijing Office Hours for IETF-79

2010-11-07 Thread Thomas Walsh
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Re: Proposed WG and BOF Scheduling Experiment

2010-11-07 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
One of the factors that frequently determines the outcome of a piece of work is how it is broken down into parts. So the scope of WGs in formation can be the most significant factor in determining what they produce. Putting the BOFs at a known time would be very helpful for that reason. Having the

Re: Proposed WG and BOF Scheduling Experiment

2010-11-07 Thread Geoff Mulligan
Maybe for the experiment we should also move the Social to Friday evening: 1) it won't interfere with IP meeting time; 2) less people so better chance of getting a ticket; 3) more folks will stay for Friday meetings; 4) IETF meeting will be over so we can let our hair down - oops that's not a probl

Beijing TSV area "office hours"

2010-11-07 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, the TSV area "office hours" are Tue 15:20-17:00 in Diamond 3. If you plan on stopping by, please send us (tsv-...@tools.ietf.org) a quick email beforehand. Lars smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf

Re: Proposed WG and BOF Scheduling Experiment

2010-11-07 Thread Aaron Falk
On 11/8/10 10:57 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 2010-11-08 15:26, The IESG wrote: First, schedule all BOFs for Monday afternoon. Hmm. How many non-overlapping time slots? It would be extremely frustrating if there was a lot of overlap between BOFs. Some of us are interested in almost any ne

Re: Proposed WG and BOF Scheduling Experiment

2010-11-07 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2010-11-08 15:26, The IESG wrote: > The IESG is seriously considering a WG and BOF scheduling experiment. The > goal of the experiment is to provide WG agenda sooner and also provide > more time to craft BOF proposals. > > The proposed experiment includes three parts. First, schedule all BOFs

Re: Proposed WG and BOF Scheduling Experiment

2010-11-07 Thread Scott Brim
On 11/08/2010 10:26 GMT+08:00, The IESG wrote: > The IESG is seriously considering a WG and BOF scheduling experiment. The > goal of the experiment is to provide WG agenda sooner and also provide > more time to craft BOF proposals. > > The proposed experiment includes three parts. First, schedul

Re: Proposed WG and BOF Scheduling Experiment

2010-11-07 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 11/8/2010 10:26 AM, The IESG wrote: The proposed experiment includes three parts. First, schedule all BOFs for Monday afternoon. Second, schedule WGs before we know which BOFs will be held. Finally, provide an additional four weeks to deliver BOF proposal to ADs. Please let us know wheth

Re: Proposed WG and BOF Scheduling Experiment

2010-11-07 Thread Richard L. Barnes
If we put the BOFs on Friday afternoon instead, wouldn't that make the attendance numbers an even stronger gauge of interest? On 11/8/10 10:26 AM, The IESG wrote: The IESG is seriously considering a WG and BOF scheduling experiment. The goal of the experiment is to provide WG agenda sooner a

Proposed WG and BOF Scheduling Experiment

2010-11-07 Thread The IESG
The IESG is seriously considering a WG and BOF scheduling experiment. The goal of the experiment is to provide WG agenda sooner and also provide more time to craft BOF proposals. The proposed experiment includes three parts. First, schedule all BOFs for Monday afternoon. Second, schedule WGs be

Re: Tonight's Plenary: RFCs Will No Longer Be Published

2010-11-07 Thread Olaf Kolkman
On Nov 8, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Dave CROCKER wrote: > "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." -- Thomas Jefferson > > It is also the price for maintaining quality and culture. -- D. Crocker > > > > One of the problems with having things work well is that we get complacent. > > Onc

Tonight's Plenary: RFCs Will No Longer Be Published

2010-11-07 Thread Dave CROCKER
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." -- Thomas Jefferson It is also the price for maintaining quality and culture. -- D. Crocker One of the problems with having things work well is that we get complacent. Once we get through the challenges of gaining approval for a documen

Re: [OAUTH-WG] ** OAuth Tutorial & OAuth Security Session **

2010-11-07 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Hi all, Mark McGloin and me have been working on OAuth 2.0 security considerations for a couple of weeks now. Since we both cannot attend the IETF-79 meetings, we would like to provide the WG with information regarding the current status of our work. I therefore uploaded a _preliminary_ versi

** OAuth Tutorial & OAuth Security Session **

2010-11-07 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, please consider attending the following two meetings! ** OAuth Security Session ** • Date: Monday, 13:00-15:00 • Location: IAB breakout room (Jade 2) • Contact: Hannes Tschofenig hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net The security consideration section of OAuth 2.0 (draft -1

Re: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-upstream (MPLS Upstream Label Assignment for LDP) to Proposed Standard

2010-11-07 Thread Rahul Aggarwal
Hi Eric, Sorry for the delay. Please see below: At this point, I believe the only change that is needed to draft-ietf-mpls- ldp-upstream is to move the reference to RFC 3472 into the "Informational References" section. This is fine. I will make the change in the next update. That is, I