Re: Proposed WG and BOF Scheduling Experiment

2010-11-09 Thread Eric Burger
I would offer we do the venture capital lightning round thing. Schedule a *single* 2.5 hour slot for *all* BOFs. Each BOF proposer gets 5 minutes to make their pitch and 10 minutes of discussion. I would bet that 15 minutes of FOCUSED attention would give the IAB and IESG enough input as to

Alternative Proposal for Two-Stage IETF Standardization

2010-11-09 Thread Dave CROCKER
Folks, A few of us have formulated an alternative proposal for streamlining the IETF standards process. We hope that it at least adds to the mix of discussion in the community. d/ Original Message Subject: I-D Action:draft-crocker-ietf-twostage-00.txt Date: Tue, 09 Nov

Re: Alternative Proposal for Two-Stage IETF Standardization

2010-11-09 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 4cd967ad.80...@dcrocker.net, Dave CROCKER writes: Folks, A few of us have formulated an alternative proposal for streamlining the IETF standards process. We hope that it at least adds to the mix of discussion in the community. d/ Dave, can you please fix/change/report to

Re: Alternative Proposal for Two-Stage IETF Standardization

2010-11-09 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Hi, I could live with this. I could live with draft-housley-two-maturity-levels. I could also live with draft-dawkins-pstmt-twostage (2003), or draft-atkinson-newtrk-twostep (2006), or even draft-carpenter-newtrk-twostep (2005). For that matter I could live with

Move of ALTO and DECADE to Transport Area

2010-11-09 Thread The IESG
The IESG has decided to move the ALTO and DECADE working groups from the Applications Area to the Transport Area. Two factors played a role in this decision. First, the IESG feels that consolidating the standardization of peer-to-peer technologies in one Area will strengthen this important

[www.ietf.org/rt #32645] Move of ALTO and DECADE to Transport Area

2010-11-09 Thread Cindy Morgan via RT
Hi Russ, The Areas and Area Directors have been updated accordingly for ALTO and DECADE. Best regards, Cindy On Tue Nov 09 17:43:44 2010, ietf@ietf.org wrote: The IESG has decided to move the ALTO and DECADE working groups from the Applications Area to the Transport Area. Two factors

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [secdir] ** OAuth Tutorial OAuth Security Session **

2010-11-09 Thread Mark Mcgloin
When Torsten and I started pulling together the security considerations over the last 4-6 weeks, we toyed with the idea of either populating the security considerations section of the protocol with a list/tree of considerations, or creating a more comprehensive document to ensure we covered all

Re: [secdir] [OAUTH-WG] ** OAuth Tutorial OAuth Security Session **

2010-11-09 Thread Richard L. Barnes
I would say that the security considerations should be based on a model of OAuth. Start with a model of the protocol and the guarantees you want, then explain how to use security mechanisms to achieve those guarantees. I promised Hannes today to do a review of the current document (which I

Re: Alternative Proposal for Two-Stage IETF Standardization

2010-11-09 Thread Dave CROCKER
All I did was a forward of what was sent over ietf-announce. d/ On 11/10/2010 7:24 AM, Mark Andrews wrote: Dave, can you please fix/change/report to the vendor that your MUA as it is not producing valid mime. My MUA reported this as being broken. Content-Type: Message/External-body;

Protocol Action: 'Anonymity Support for Kerberos' to Proposed Standard

2010-11-09 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Anonymity Support for Kerberos' draft-ietf-krb-wg-anon-12.txt as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Kerberos Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Tim Polk and Sean Turner. A URL of this Internet Draft is:

Protocol Action: 'Additional Kerberos Naming Constraints' to Proposed Standard

2010-11-09 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Additional Kerberos Naming Constraints' draft-ietf-krb-wg-naming-07.txt as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Kerberos Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Tim Polk and Sean Turner. A URL of this Internet Draft is:

Move of ALTO and DECADE to Transport Area

2010-11-09 Thread The IESG
The IESG has decided to move the ALTO and DECADE working groups from the Applications Area to the Transport Area. Two factors played a role in this decision. First, the IESG feels that consolidating the standardization of peer-to-peer technologies in one Area will strengthen this important

Re: Move of ALTO and DECADE to Transport Area

2010-11-09 Thread The IESG
To provide a complete picture, I should have said something about the P2PSIP working group in the announcement. Sorry for omitting it. Because the P2PSIP WG is nearing the end of its chartered work, P2PSIP is not being moved from the RAI Area to the TSV Area. On behalf of the IESG, Russ Housley