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On Thu, 3 Mar 2011, Russ Housley wrote:
> It does not sound like the shutdown of the MEAD team was smooth.
> However, the closure of a design team when their output is being handled
> by a working group is quite normal.
>From following this thread, it sounds like the wrong IETF organization
u
On 2011-03-04 06:51, Russ Housley wrote:
> Nurit:
>
>>> Not to mention including the canard that the IETF unilaterally disbanded
>>> "its group assigned to work with ITU" in 2009. Others with more detailed
>>> knowledge can explain exactly why this is, er, a lie.
>> Here are some facts:
>> ===
Nurit:
>> Not to mention including the canard that the IETF unilaterally disbanded
>> "its group assigned to work with ITU" in 2009. Others with more detailed
>> knowledge can explain exactly why this is, er, a lie.
>
> Here are some facts:
> ===
> I was member of the MEAD team.
>
Dear colleagues:
Please find below my (modest) comments on draft-herzog-static-ecdh-05 (an
update of the document that occurred since the moment
of issuing the LC).
Best regards, Rene
==
I. Editorial comments:
(E-a) p. 1, Disclaimer, l. 3: "conclusions and" should read "conclusions, and".
(E
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Original Message
Subject: [apps-discuss] timezone database maintenance
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 09:45:35 -0700
From: Peter Saint-Andre
To: apps-disc...@ietf.org
Dear Apps
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 04:57:39PM +0200, Mykyta Yevstifeyev wrote:
> Andrew, in this case how do you propose to formulate this? Mykyta
"Not"? The goal you appear to have in this is to make the RFC series
tidy. As the co-chair of a WG with an old and decidedly messy set of
protocol documents,
--On Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:41 -0500 "Joel M. Halpern"
wrote:
> No, I do not agree with you.
> Our current definition for historic, and our current choices
> for when to move things, have worked sufficiently well.
> I have not seen any evidence that there is a problem that
> needs solving.
Earlier, Joel Halpern wrote:
> The first point, to echo Andrew Sullivan, is that even if a protocol
> is in use on the public Internet, it is not always easy to detect.
> It may be used in only some portions of the net. It may be used
> inside some other protocol that makes detection ahrder.
>
>
No, I do not agree with you.
Our current definition for historic, and our current choices for when to
move things, have worked sufficiently well.
I have not seen any evidence that there is a problem that needs solving.
I have also not seen any evidence that the changes you propose to the
defini
Joel,
I agree with you that it is really hard and even impossible to determine
what is going on in the Internet regarding some technology, protocol,
etc. If we set the impossible criterion for the Historic documents,
this will really make very few sense. So, as I have been pointed out, I
f
On 3/3/11 8:18 AM, Dave CROCKER wrote:
>
>
> On 3/3/2011 7:11 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
>> The first point, to echo Andrew Sullivan, is that even if a protocol
>> is in use
>> on the public Internet, it is not always easy to detect.
> ...
>> The second point is that enterprise uses and other pri
On 3/3/2011 7:11 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
The first point, to echo Andrew Sullivan, is that even if a protocol is in use
on the public Internet, it is not always easy to detect.
...
The second point is that enterprise uses and other private network uses are
still valid uses. The fact that a
There are, in my opinion, two problems with Mr. Yevstifeyev's assertion
below that it is easy to determine when things are out of use.
The first point, to echo Andrew Sullivan, is that even if a protocol is
in use on the public Internet, it is not always easy to detect. It may
be used in only s
03.03.2011 13:56, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 11:27:21AM +0200, Mykyta Yevstifeyev wrote:
2011/3/2, Eliot Lear:
imprecise. For one, it is hard to observe what is going on on the
Internet, and those who do don't usually share their data (there is
some, but it is often regiona
Huub,
Good that you mention that you were part of the design team! That is correct.
You were also part of the team that worked in the face-to-face MEAD team
meeting in Stockholm, July 2009, on the design and the technical direction for
OAM in MPLS-TP. You were part of the team that presented the
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 11:27:21AM +0200, Mykyta Yevstifeyev wrote:
> 2011/3/2, Eliot Lear :
> > imprecise. For one, it is hard to observe what is going on on the
> > Internet, and those who do don't usually share their data (there is
> > some, but it is often regionally based, like the GINORMOUS
Hello Brian,
You wrote:
Not to mention including the canard that the IETF unilaterally disbanded
"its group assigned to work with ITU" in 2009. Others with more detailed
knowledge can explain exactly why this is, er, a lie.
Here are some facts:
===
I was member of the MEAD tea
Hello Eliot,
Thank you for reading the document. Pleas efind some comments in-line.
2011/3/2, Eliot Lear :
> Thank you for the opportunity to review this draft. I do so merely as
> an individual. It might be a good idea to provide some additional
> clarity on when to market something Historic,
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