Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org

2011-07-07 Thread Thomas Narten
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Re: Why ask for IETF Consensus on a WG document?

2011-07-07 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
On 24 Jun 2011, at 16:54, Keith Moore wrote: > But one of the important attributes of consensus, one of the things that > makes it so powerful, is that ideally, it's visible to everyone. Take the > example where a bunch of people in a room are asked a question and asked to > raise hands to indi

RE: [mpls] Last Call: (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-07 Thread Rui Costa
David, Reading something, keeping it on record, without effect in the draft and "ignoring comments" have IMHO similar outcomes. As author of the draft you are free to do it. These standards have a great impact in our work, so i'm also free to write what i did. Stewart, My tech

Re: Comments surrounding draft-iab-dns-applications-01

2011-07-07 Thread Joe Touch
On 7/5/2011 6:07 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: On 7/5/2011 3:12 PM, Joe Touch wrote: " The SRV record allows DNS resolvers to search for particular applications and underlying transports (for example, HTTP running over TLS, see [RFC2818]) and to learn the domain name and port where that service re

RE: [mpls] R: Re: Last Call: (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-07 Thread David Allan I
Hi Erminio: >Several service providers regarded this draft as not meeting their >transport networks' needs. E> This is a true statement: the solution in this draft is useless for many MPLS- TP deployments. The two statements do not necessarily follow. What we established during discuss

RE: [mpls] R: Re: Last Call: (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-07 Thread David Allan I
Hi Erminio: Two of the three document editors were present at SG15 plenary in February where the comments originated. The revised meeting schedule resulted in a day spent going through the document with the editors. IMO there were lots of discussion and legitimate issues with the document ident

R: Re: [mpls] Last Call: (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-07 Thread erminio.ottone...@libero.it
The way this draft has been developed is a bit strange. The poll for its adoption as a WG document was halted by the MPLS WG chair because "it is not possible to judge consensus": http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mpls/current/msg04502.html The lack of consensus was motivated by serious tech

R: Re: [mpls] Last Call: (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-07 Thread erminio.ottone...@libero.it
> Version -04 of the document was published June 28th. > > The publication request for draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi was sent > June 29th. > So when the WG LC to confirm the LC comment resolution has been launched? The proto write-up says: It has also passed a working roup call to

Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic

2011-07-07 Thread Doug Barton
... or to use Randy's language, "6to4 considered caterpillar snot," but yes, that is what I was thinking that end of the spectrum looked like. Doug On 07/07/2011 01:30, Yoav Nir wrote: > Extremist-A should be to publish a "6to4 considered dangerous" draft with > lots of MUST NOT language. >

Re: extra room avail IETF hotel at IETF rate

2011-07-07 Thread Olafur Gudmundsson
I also have one I'm not going to use. Olafur On 05/07/2011 5:32 PM, Geoff Mulligan wrote: I found that I have an extra reservation at the IETF rate ($229/night)for Sunday to Friday at the Hilton. If anyone is interested I can transfer the reservation. geoff

RE: [mpls] R: Re: LastCall: (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indicationfor MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-07 Thread Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
Erminio, I do not think the history is relevant for this specific discussion... Also I find it inappropriate to give statements with no justifications behind. You say: "the solution in this draft is useless for many MPLS-TP deployments.". in order to seriously consider your comment, you have to

RE: [mpls] R: Re: LastCall: (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indicationfor MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-07 Thread Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
Erminio, I do not think the history is relevant for this specific discussion... Also I find it inappropriate to give statements with no justifications behind. You say: "the solution in this draft is useless for many MPLS-TP deployments.". in order to seriously consider your comment, you have to

RE: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic

2011-07-07 Thread Yoav Nir
Extremist-A should be to publish a "6to4 considered dangerous" draft with lots of MUST NOT language. -Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Martin Rex Sent: 06 July 2011 23:50 To: Doug Barton Cc: v6...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org Subject: