Re: Spurious MTU in IPv6 RAs Where WAN is PPPoE

2011-07-10 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 9 jul 2011, at 15:51, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: You're invited to file a report with http://bugreport.apple.com about this. Be sure to explain why fixing the broken path MTU discovery in the network is not an option and requiring the AirPort user to know enough about IPv6 router

Re: notes from discussion of KARP design guidelines

2011-07-10 Thread Joel Halpern
Joe, THE KARP WG Chairs have reviewed your comments, in order to figure out what the best way to address them. We would appreciate it if you could engage in discussion of this proposal on the KARP working group email list. If you feel we are still not understanding your point, we would

Re: Spurious MTU in IPv6 RAs Where WAN is PPPoE

2011-07-10 Thread Masataka Ohta
Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: But with IPv6 we have a new chance to punish the people creating the problem rather than the ones implementing PMTUD properly, so The Right Thing To Do is NOT fix any PMTUD breakage in properly behaving systems, but rather push people that configure their systems

Re: Spurious MTU in IPv6 RAs Where WAN is PPPoE

2011-07-10 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 10 jul 2011, at 17:20, Masataka Ohta wrote: I was wondering what kind of unique perspective you would have here, and I wasn't disappointed: It means that rational operators MUST filter some ICMP and, not surprisingly, some operators will block all ICMP or all packet too big ICMPs That is

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2011-07-10 Thread Mark Andrews
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Re: Spurious MTU in IPv6 RAs Where WAN is PPPoE

2011-07-10 Thread Masataka Ohta
Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: I was wondering what kind of unique perspective you would have here, and I wasn't disappointed: You always outperform me with your imagination. It means that rational operators MUST filter some ICMP and, not surprisingly, some operators will block all ICMP or