OAM Interworking [Was: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC]

2011-10-10 Thread Adrian Farrel
Huub sed: Section 6 focusses on the interworking between two toolsets In transport networks we *never* have peer-2-peer OAM interworking. If it was required it would have explicitly been mentioned in the MPLS-TP requirements RFC. Can I just ask for some clarification of this. We have

ITU-T Beijing meeting [Was: Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC]

2011-10-10 Thread Adrian Farrel
Yuxia wrote: I also agree with Huub. As a consensus reached in Beijing meeting, mechanism using the tools defined for MPLS is a default tool set and another using the tools defined in G.8013/Y.1731 is an optional one. That is a an interesting and helpful statement. Obviously, most IETF

Re: Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet Drafts

2011-10-10 Thread t.petch
Original Message - From: Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de To: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com Cc: Frank Ellermann hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkzt...@gmail.com; ietf@ ietf.org Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 3:07 PM On 2011-10-08 09:20, t.petch wrote: If I'm looking for an internet

Re: ITU-T Beijing meeting [Was: Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC]

2011-10-10 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Adrian, A similar statement is already included in draft-tsb-mpls-tp-ach-ptn-01 5.3. LSP or PW originating in a PTN network and terminating in a PSN network In this case the PW (or LSP) originates (or terminates) in a PTN and terminates (or originates) in a PSN. The default OAM for

RE: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-10 Thread John E Drake
Are we now going to be subject to daily updates? -Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Huub van Helvoort Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 7:42 AM To: IETF Discussion Subject: Re: Last Call:

Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet Drafts

2011-10-10 Thread Elwyn Davies
Hi. I don't know who was responsible for the Watersprings archive, but I think we should send whoever it was a vote of thanks for providing this (free) resource during all the years that the IETF was not able or willing to provide it. So THANK YOU! It was extremely useful. But I am now

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM)

2011-10-10 Thread Russ Housley
As a consensus reached in Beijing meeting, mechanism using the tools defined for MPLS is a default tool set and another using the tools defined in G.8013/Y.1731 is an optional one. This document is about the consequences of there being an optional OAM solution if it is implemented by

Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-federated-fs-dns-srv-namespace-09

2011-10-10 Thread david.black
The Gen-ART review of the -08 version raised two significant open issues. I will defer to the DNS experts in the INT area to determine whether the changes in the -09 version resolve the issues around the format of the service name in the DNS SRV records [1], although based on IESG Evaluation

XML-based registry format, Re: Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet Drafts

2011-10-10 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2011-10-10 11:23, t.petch wrote: Julian On a thread on this list some time ago, IANA reported progress in converting their web site to XML and at the same time, apologised for how long it now takes to access the Port Registry. Having accessed it - a good chance to complete The Times

RE: ITU-T Beijing meeting [Was: Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC]

2011-10-10 Thread Adrian Farrel
Hello Malcolm, A similar statement is already included in draft-tsb-mpls-tp-ach-ptn-01 The statement I found interesting was about consensus reached in an ITU-T meeting. I don't find this recorded in the Internet-Draft you pointed to. I asked whether there is a possibility that this message

Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet Drafts

2011-10-10 Thread Doug Barton
On 10/10/2011 07:17, Elwyn Davies wrote: But I am now quite happy with the IETF draft archive and I have a couple of customized Firefox search entries that minimize the amount of typing needed. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ietf-doc-fetch-73306/ You can type in an RFC number,

Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet Drafts

2011-10-10 Thread Andrew G. Malis
Very nice, thanks!! On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote: On 10/10/2011 07:17, Elwyn Davies wrote: But I am now quite happy with the IETF draft archive and I have a couple of customized Firefox search entries that minimize the amount of typing needed.

Re: Last Call draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-10 Thread Stephen Kent
I support this doc, and concur with Stewart's comments. Contrary to what some have suggested, we sometimes (ofttimes?) have more than one standard for no good technical reason. Sometimes very large, competing companies back different standards for parochial reasons, to the detriment of

Re: ITU-T Beijing meeting [Was: Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC]

2011-10-10 Thread Huub van Helvoort
Hello Adrian, You typed: Yuxia wrote: I also agree with Huub. As a consensus reached in Beijing meeting, mechanism using the tools defined for MPLS is a default tool set and another using the tools defined in G.8013/Y.1731 is an optional one. That is a an interesting and helpful

RE: ITU-T Beijing meeting [Was: Re: Last Call:draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt(The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) toInformational RFC]

2011-10-10 Thread Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
Huub, You say The liaison informs the IETF that on September 16 recommendation G.8113.2 was consented in a WP3 plenary meeting. In both the Beijing Q10 expert meeting where the consent was proposed and the WP3 plenary meeting where the consent took place, there were no objections. My

Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet Drafts

2011-10-10 Thread Elwyn Davies
On 10/10/2011 20:25, Andrew G. Malis wrote: Very nice, thanks!! On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Doug Bartondo...@dougbarton.us wrote: On 10/10/2011 07:17, Elwyn Davies wrote: But I am now quite happy with the IETF draft archive and I have a couple of customized Firefox search entries

Re: Last Call draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-10 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 10/10/2011 08:41 PM, Stephen Kent wrote: As the co-chair of PKIX, which has two standards for cert management (CMC and CMP), for exactly the bad reasons I cite above, I am intimately familiar with this sort of problem. I failed, in my role as PKIX co-chair, to prevent this in that WG. Let's

Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet Drafts

2011-10-10 Thread Jean-Michel Combes
Not used to send replies on the IETF ML but clearly for this one: +1 :) watersprings.org was a real great help for me! Thanks!!! Best regards. JMC. 2011/10/10 Elwyn Davies elw...@dial.pipex.com: Hi. I don't know who was responsible for the Watersprings archive, but I think we should send

Re: Last Call draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-10 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2011-10-11 10:18, Stephen Farrell wrote: ... (What's the relevant plural for mea cupla I wonder? ;-) Nostra culpa, if you want a single fault owned by us. It's nostrae culpae for multiple faults by all of us. Perhaps it should be added to the Note Well. Brian

Protocol Action: 'Carrying Q.850 Codes in Reason Header Fields in SIP (Session Initiation Protocol) Responses' to Proposed Standard (draft-jesske-dispatch-update3326-reason-responses-05.txt)

2011-10-10 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Carrying Q.850 Codes in Reason Header Fields in SIP (Session Initiation Protocol) Responses' (draft-jesske-dispatch-update3326-reason-responses-05.txt) as a Proposed Standard This document has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product

Last Call: draft-ietf-ippm-metrictest-03.txt (IPPM standard advancement testing) to Proposed Standard

2011-10-10 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the IP Performance Metrics WG (ippm) to consider the following document: - 'IPPM standard advancement testing' draft-ietf-ippm-metrictest-03.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on

Last Call: draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request-09.txt (IANA Reserved IPv4 Prefix for Shared CGN Space) to BCP

2011-10-10 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'IANA Reserved IPv4 Prefix for Shared CGN Space' draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request-09.txt as a BCP The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on

Document Action: 'IPv6 in 3GPP Evolved Packet System' to Informational RFC (draft-ietf-v6ops-3gpp-eps-08.txt)

2011-10-10 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'IPv6 in 3GPP Evolved Packet System' (draft-ietf-v6ops-3gpp-eps-08.txt) as an Informational RFC This document is the product of the IPv6 Operations Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Ron Bonica and Dan Romascanu. A URL of this Internet

RFC 6395 on An Interface Identifier (ID) Hello Option for PIM

2011-10-10 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6395 Title: An Interface Identifier (ID) Hello Option for PIM Author: S. Gulrajani, S. Venaas Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF

BCP 9, RFC 6410 on Reducing the Standards Track to Two Maturity Levels

2011-10-10 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. BCP 9 RFC 6410 Title: Reducing the Standards Track to Two Maturity Levels Author: R. Housley, D. Crocker, E. Burger Status: