On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Barry Leiba wrote:
Please can everybody who doesn't upload PDF to the meeting materials page
at least take care to upload PPT instead of PPTX?
As a chair, I convert PPT and PPTX to PDF first, and always upload the
PDF. (And I ask participants to send me PDF
On Nov 15, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Ray Bellis wrote:
On 15 Nov 2011, at 16:26, Bob Hinden wrote:
+1
The Datatracker does officially support PPTX, so I don't believe it's
unreasonable to use it. If you don't like that policy, I'm not sure where
you would take that up.
It also hadn't
I am sending this note to make sure that everyone is aware of the recent
article. I understand that some people felt the article was unclear, and I
hope the following note helps.
Russ
Begin forwarded message:
From: Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com
Date: November 15, 2011 5:23:15 AM EST
On Nov 15, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Ray Bellis wrote:
On 15 Nov 2011, at 16:26, Bob Hinden wrote:
+1
The Datatracker does officially support PPTX, so I don't believe it's
unreasonable to use it. If you don't like that policy, I'm not sure where
you would take that up.
It also hadn't
On 2011-11-15 23:13, Warren Kumari wrote:
On Nov 15, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Ray Bellis wrote:
On 15 Nov 2011, at 16:26, Bob Hinden wrote:
+1
The Datatracker does officially support PPTX, so I don't believe it's
unreasonable to use it. If you don't like that policy, I'm not sure where
you
The Datatracker does officially support PPTX, so I don't believe it's
unreasonable to use it.
By suipport it, you mean accept it and convert it to something
else, a meaning of support with which I'm unfamiliar. I'd say
tolerate. What's worse is that if you post PPT/X, it gets converted
not to
On 15 Nov 2011, at 20:46, Barry Leiba wrote:
By suipport it, you mean accept it and convert it to something
else, a meaning of support with which I'm unfamiliar. I'd say
tolerate.
Well, support may have been a little strong - specifically the meeting
materials page says:
You can only
Should the system reject PPTX files ? If people can't read them, why
are we accepting them ?
Marshall
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:26 AM, Bob Hinden bob.hin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Barry Leiba wrote:
Please can everybody who doesn't upload PDF to the meeting materials
On 11/15/2011 9:14 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
Should the system reject PPTX files ? If people can't read them, why
are we accepting them ?
Marshall
Because the world has evolved since Office v0 was released unlike the IETF.
PPTX is Office 2007 format and there are formal readers and format
From: todd glassey tglas...@earthlink.net
PPTX is Office 2007 format and there are formal readers and format
API's for office so that this is a no brainer.
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=6
Gee, I don't see my OS listed on that page. What do I do know?
On 15 November 2011 18:56, Noel Chiappa j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu wrote:
Gee, I don't see my OS listed on that page. What do I do know?
Let DuckDuckGo tell you what it knows about Powerpoint viewer ubuntu.
FWIW I like ppt(x) better than pdf, anything pdf is huge. For simple
slides (x)html or
todd glassey wrote:
Marshall Eubanks wrote:
Should the system reject PPTX files ? If people can't read them, why
are we accepting them ?
I would appreciate if that datatracker simply rejected PPTX on upload.
It is several mangnitudes more efficient to have the uploaded simply
select a
On 15 November 2011 19:28, Martin Rex m...@sap.com wrote:
And where is the download URL for an officially *FREE* license
of Microsoft Windows that is a prerequisite for this player?
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=enid=11575
Free as in 120 days and you can
On 15/11/2011 18:28, Martin Rex wrote:
While I do have OpenOffice on about half of my dozen computing environments,
none of them is sufficiently new to process PPTX. I'm a developer
and need my time for work, rather than constantly wrangling of software
updates of software that I hardly use
Frank Ellermann wrote:
On 15 November 2011 19:28, Martin Rex m...@sap.com wrote:
And where is the download URL for an officially *FREE* license
of Microsoft Windows that is a prerequisite for this player?
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=enid=11575
Free
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:23:56 -0800, todd glassey tglas...@earthlink.net
said:
tg PPTX is Office 2007 format and there are formal readers and format
tg API's for office so that this is a no brainer.
Great. I do note that .odp is no where on the accepted list that people
have been posting
Nick Hilliard wrote:
Martin Rex wrote:
While I do have OpenOffice on about half of my dozen computing environments,
none of them is sufficiently new to process PPTX. I'm a developer
and need my time for work, rather than constantly wrangling of software
updates of software that I
On 15 November 2011 20:33, Martin Rex m...@sap.com wrote:
You mean free as in
Expires: This image will shutdown and become completely unusable
on November 17, 2011.
Yes, or rather, EAGAIN on November 18, that should give you the
next 120 days period for XP images. AFAIK the Vista images are
On 15/11/2011 19:40, Martin Rex wrote:
While I do have OpenOffice on about half of my dozen computing environments,
[...]
Correct. Upgrading an installation takes me a full week until it
works as smoothly as the original working environment. I don't have
more than one week per year available
On 11/15/2011 12:18 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
Please excuse my naivety. I'm new around here.
That sort of sarcasm has a tendency not to work out in the
longer run.
Anyway, my personal preference (since that's what we're all
asserting) is to use a format supported by a wider variety
of tools,
On 11/16/11 5:29 AM, Melinda Shore wrote:
On 11/15/2011 12:18 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
Please excuse my naivety. I'm new around here.
That sort of sarcasm has a tendency not to work out in the
longer run.
Anyway, my personal preference (since that's what we're all
asserting) is to use a
From: Nick Hilliard n...@inex.ie
12 computing environments, all of which are out of date by at least
3 years, and you can only afford one week every year for managing
updates - which is enough time to update exactly one installation.
...
Please excuse my naivety.
On 11/14/2011 3:07 PM, Barry Leiba wrote:
Within expected paramaters... it's not like I generated MOS scores, but
they all sound pretty much like they should.
OK, I think I get you. All streams appear to be of reasonably good quality.
And yet you grew up listening to NASA mission control
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Nick Hilliard n...@inex.ie wrote:
you feel that the IETF should hold off supporting a 5 year old file format,
supported by the majority of computers in the world?
Please excuse my naivety. I'm new around here.
I'm not exactly sure of all of the IETF
On 15/11/2011 21:29, Melinda Shore wrote:
That sort of sarcasm has a tendency not to work out in the
longer run.
no, probably not. It's just that I've been hearing the same complaint
about unwillingness to upgrade to widely-supported file / display / etc
formats for as long I've been dabbling
On 11/15/2011 01:13 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
Incidentally, I am not a supporter of free-for-all file format support, but
solely because of posterity support: the ietf archives will be of interest
to historians one day, and there is no better way to make it difficult to
analyse things than by
On 15/11/2011 21:33, Noel Chiappa wrote:
If there's any activity more boring, and less truly productive, than
updating to the latest rev of a software environment, I'd like to know
what it is.
Exquisitely boring, yes. But if refusal to upgrade causes current
compatibility problems, then it is
Nick == Nick Hilliard n...@inex.ie writes:
Nick I agree. OOo has only supported pptx for the last 3 years,
Nick and you're right that it's totally unrealistic to expect that
Nick everyone upgrade any of
Nick their installations within this sort of time-frame.
So, it's not
On 11/15/2011 04:53 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:
Nick == Nick Hilliardn...@inex.ie writes:
Nick I agree. OOo has only supported pptx for the last 3 years,
Nick and you're right that it's totally unrealistic to expect that
Nick everyone upgrade any of
Nick their
On 15/11/2011 22:30, Melinda Shore wrote:
Librarian, here. As a fan of the unusual argument I love the
suggestion that future researchers will have an easier time with
undocumented, proprietary formats, and therefore in the present
day we should all be required to run behemothware so that we
Nick Hilliard wrote:
Martin Rex wrote:
While I do have OpenOffice on about half of my dozen computing
environments,
[...]
Correct. Upgrading an installation takes me a full week until it
works as smoothly as the original working environment. I don't have
more than one week per
What is much more important is that the data formats used by the
IETF will still be fully supported in 15-20 years. For a new,
and more so a proprietary data format, ...
I'm confused. When you say a proprietary data format, I presume you
mean Microsoft's closed and undocumented PPT format, as
On 2011-11-16 13:56, John Levine wrote:
What is much more important is that the data formats used by the
IETF will still be fully supported in 15-20 years. For a new,
and more so a proprietary data format, ...
I'm confused. When you say a proprietary data format, I presume you
mean
On Nov 16, 2011, at 2:28 AM, Martin Rex wrote:
todd glassey wrote:
Marshall Eubanks wrote:
Should the system reject PPTX files ? If people can't read them, why
are we accepting them ?
I would appreciate if that datatracker simply rejected PPTX on upload.
It is several mangnitudes
I think all of you guys are getting a little too serious about this
thing.
Here's my take: even in a 100% Microsoft shop, .pptx is a pain as much
as .xlsx and .docx. And yes, I know about the free
fileformatconverters.exe, thank you very much. It does not work on my
Microsoft cell phone that does
John Levine wrote:
What is much more important is that the data formats used by the
IETF will still be fully supported in 15-20 years. For a new,
and more so a proprietary data format, ...
I'm confused. When you say a proprietary data format, I presume you
mean Microsoft's closed and
Two Multicast for IPv6 Transition Demonstrations are taking place this week in
the terminal room (4F VIP room) from 8:00 am to 7:00 pm. On Friday, of course,
the demonstration will end at 1:00 pm when the meeting closes.
Transition from IPv6 to IPv4 must support key multicast applications such
In the interest of
1) Facilitating work
2) Making its work available to as wide an audience as possible, and
3) Lowering barriers to participation...
Right. We are talking about presentation slides,
not about something that absolutely has to readable years hence.
So the slides need to be in
The IESG has received a request from the Speech Services Control WG
(speechsc) to consider the following document:
- 'Media Resource Control Protocol Version 2 (MRCPv2)'
draft-ietf-speechsc-mrcpv2-27.txt as a Proposed Standard
This is a second IETF LC to verify the changes to the policy used
Two Multicast for IPv6 Transition Demonstrations are taking place this week in
the terminal room (4F VIP room) from 8:00 am to 7:00 pm. On Friday, of course,
the demonstration will end at 1:00 pm when the meeting closes.
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