Re: [mile] Last Call: draft-ietf-mile-template-04.txt (Guidelines for Defining Extensions to IODEF) to Informational RFC

2012-05-18 Thread Brian Trammell
Hi, Peter, all, Many thanks for the comments; replies inline... On May 17, 2012, at 5:25 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 5/16/12 3:53 PM, The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from the Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange WG (mile) to consider the following document: -

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-18 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Hector Santos hsan...@isdg.net wrote: Lee Howard wrote: -Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Cridland Consider: An octet may contain 0-255. An octet contains 0-255. An octet might

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-18 Thread ned+ietf
I find this morning a message on the URN WG list by Alfred Hines on RFC 6329, which has a new (AFAIK) convention on normative language 3. Conventions Used in This Document The key words MUST, MUST NOT, REQUIRED, SHALL, SHALL NOT, SHOULD, SHOULD NOT, RECOMMENDED, MAY, and OPTIONAL in

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-18 Thread Ralph Droms
On May 16, 2012, at 10:22 PM 5/16/12, Ned Freed wrote: On May 16, 2012, at 5:22 PM 5/16/12, ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com wrote: The key words MUST, MUST NOT, REQUIRED, SHALL, SHALL NOT, SHOULD, SHOULD NOT, RECOMMENDED, MAY, and OPTIONAL in this document are to be interpreted as

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-18 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Ralph Droms rdroms.i...@gmail.com wrote: On May 16, 2012, at 10:22 PM 5/16/12, Ned Freed wrote: On May 16, 2012, at 5:22 PM 5/16/12, ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com wrote:  The key words MUST, MUST NOT, REQUIRED, SHALL, SHALL NOT,  SHOULD, SHOULD NOT,

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-art last call review of draft-ietf-codec-opus-12.txt (completed)

2012-05-18 Thread Elwyn Davies
Hi, Jean-Marc and co-authors On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 12:49 -0400, Jean-Marc Valin wrote: Hi Elwyn, We're submitted a -14 draft to address your comments. Again, see the response to each of these issues in the attached document. I think we are done. Thanks once again for the rapid response.

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-18 Thread Eric Rosen
So, I recommend an errata to RFC 2119: These words MUST NOT appear in a document in lower case. I'm glad you said I recommend instead of I have recommended, as the latter would violate the recommended (oh dear) rule. This RECOMMENDED rule would also imply that documents can no longer be

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-18 Thread Randy Bush
I recommend an errata to RFC 2119: These words MUST NOT appear in a document in lower case. first, that is not an erratum, it is a non-trivial semantic change. second, do we not already have enough problems being clear and concise without removing common words from our language? randy

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-18 Thread ned+ietf
I recommend an errata to RFC 2119: These words MUST NOT appear in a document in lower case. first, that is not an erratum, it is a non-trivial semantic change. And therefore explicitly disallowed by the erratum process. second, do we not already have enough problems being clear and

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-18 Thread Ralph Droms
On May 18, 2012, at 2:27 PM 5/18/12, Randy Bush wrote: I recommend an errata to RFC 2119: These words MUST NOT appear in a document in lower case. first, that is not an erratum, it is a non-trivial semantic change. You are correct and point taken. second, do we not already have

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-18 Thread Randy Bush
Dave Crocker's suggestion would minimize the number of words taken out of our vocabulary: for a language other than english. In addition to clear and concise we need precision and avoidance of ambiguity. wonderful rofl. thanks. mind if i put that in my public quotes file? randy

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-18 Thread Ralph Droms
On May 18, 2012, at 2:40 PM 5/18/12, Randy Bush wrote: Dave Crocker's suggestion would minimize the number of words taken out of our vocabulary: for a language other than english. In addition to clear and concise we need precision and avoidance of ambiguity. wonderful rofl. thanks.

Updated secdir review of draft-ietf-emu-chbind-15.txt

2012-05-18 Thread Stephen Hanna
The changes in draft-ietf-emu-chbind-15.txt satisfactorily address almost all of the comments in my April 13, 2012 secdir review. I do have one remaining substantive comment on this latest draft and two non-substantive ones. Substantive Comment --- The last paragraph of section

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-18 Thread Randy Bush
my wife says the purpose of tourists (we in japan) is to amuse the natives randy

RFC 6621 on Simplified Multicast Forwarding

2012-05-18 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6621 Title: Simplified Multicast Forwarding Author: J. Macker, Ed. Status: Experimental Stream: IETF Date: May 2012 Mailbox:

RFC 6624 on Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Using BGP for Auto-Discovery and Signaling

2012-05-18 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6624 Title: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Using BGP for Auto-Discovery and Signaling Author: K. Kompella, B. Kothari, R. Cherukuri

RFC 6625 on Wildcards in Multicast VPN Auto-Discovery Routes

2012-05-18 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6625 Title: Wildcards in Multicast VPN Auto-Discovery Routes Author: E. Rosen, Ed., Y. Rekhter, Ed., W. Hendrickx,

RFC 6636 on Tuning the Behavior of the Internet Group Management Protocol (IGMP) and Multicast Listener Discovery (MLD) for Routers in Mobile and Wireless Networks

2012-05-18 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6636 Title: Tuning the Behavior of the Internet Group Management Protocol (IGMP) and Multicast Listener Discovery (MLD) for Routers