RE: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-20 Thread Yaakov Stein
And of course if we had a slightly richer publication format we could use, oh, say, underline, bold, italics and maybe even a special font for normative terms, but I guess I am dreaming decades ahead... I was waiting to see if someone was going to bring this up. In Roman law, the way you

Gen-ART LC review of draft-melnikov-smtp-priority-13

2012-05-20 Thread Roni Even
I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq. Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments you may receive. Document: draft-melnikov-smtp-priority-13

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-20 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2012-05-19 20:39, Ofer Inbar wrote: ... But don't change the rules. 2119 works well as is IMO. Just to be clear about the current rules, 2119 makes it clear that upper case keywords are optional (These words are often capitalized). Indeed, numerous standards track documents don't use them.

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-20 Thread Bill McQuillan
On Sat, 2012-05-19, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 2012-05-19 20:39, Ofer Inbar wrote: ... But don't change the rules. 2119 works well as is IMO. Just to be clear about the current rules, 2119 makes it clear that upper case keywords are optional (These words are often capitalized). Indeed,

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-20 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 05/20/2012 07:25 AM, Yaakov Stein wrote: But the IETF is still living in Roman times. If you want a discussion as to whether we should live in Times Roman, that'd be best on the rfc editor list. (Sorry, couldn't resist;-) S.

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-20 Thread Hector Santos
Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 2012-05-19 20:39, Ofer Inbar wrote: ... But don't change the rules. 2119 works well as is IMO. Just to be clear about the current rules, 2119 makes it clear that upper case keywords are optional (These words are often capitalized). Indeed, numerous standards

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-20 Thread John C Klensin
--On Sunday, May 20, 2012 07:53 +0100 Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-05-19 20:39, Ofer Inbar wrote: ... But don't change the rules. 2119 works well as is IMO. Just to be clear about the current rules, 2119 makes it clear that upper case keywords are

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-20 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2012-05-20 17:29, John C Klensin wrote: --On Sunday, May 20, 2012 07:53 +0100 Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-05-19 20:39, Ofer Inbar wrote: ... But don't change the rules. 2119 works well as is IMO. Just to be clear about the current rules, 2119 makes

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-20 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:06:25AM -0400, Simon Perreault simon.perrea...@viagenie.ca wrote a message of 12 lines which said: One dreams of a period in which precision and elegance were not mutually exclusive properties. You mean when French was the dominant language? Nice troll. Let me

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-20 Thread Marc Petit-Huguenin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/20/2012 12:41 PM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:06:25AM -0400, Simon Perreault simon.perrea...@viagenie.ca wrote a message of 12 lines which said: One dreams of a period in which precision and elegance were not

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-20 Thread Yoav Nir
On May 20, 2012, at 11:36 PM, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/20/2012 12:41 PM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:06:25AM -0400, Simon Perreault simon.perrea...@viagenie.ca wrote a message of 12 lines which said: One

Re: [dnsext] Last Call: draft-ietf-dnsext-dnssec-bis-updates-18.txt (Clarifications and Implementation Notes for DNSSECbis) to Proposed Standard

2012-05-20 Thread Mark Andrews
I am repeating what I have said earlier during WGLS that Section 5.9., Always set the CD bit on Queries, contains bad advice on how to set the CD bit. The setting of CD make little difference if all the machines involved are being correctly managed. In that case all responses will successfully