Re: [decade] FW: Last Call: draft-farrell-decade-ni-07.txt (Naming Things with Hashes) to Proposed Standard

2012-06-13 Thread Martin J. Dürst
Hello Stephen, On 2012/06/12 20:08, Stephen Farrell wrote: So would it work to add this: Note that relative ni URIs can occur, for example as shown in Figure 5. In such cases, user agents MUST construct the absolute URI as they would in the case of an HTTP URL, that is, in the

Change in I-D announcement format

2012-06-13 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Did I miss an announcement of the change in format of I-D announcement messages? There's no longer a URL for the standard .txt format. That's mildly annoying for me (extra time and extra mouse clicks) and must be a nuisance for anyone who processes these messages automatically. At least, I would

RE: Change in I-D announcement format

2012-06-13 Thread Yoav Nir
This line is not too hot either: There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/submission.filename }}-01 -Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter Sent: 13 June 2012 10:48 To: IETF discussion

Re: registries and designated experts

2012-06-13 Thread Brian E Carpenter
John, On 2012-06-12 19:38, John C Klensin wrote: --On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 19:13 +0100 Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com wrote: The above is at odds with standardization. The last reason does not apply for Expert review. I don't understand that statement. RFC 5226 says, in

Re: [decade] FW: Last Call: draft-farrell-decade-ni-07.txt (Naming Things with Hashes) to Proposed Standard

2012-06-13 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 06/13/2012 07:28 AM, Martin J. Dürst wrote: Hello Stephen, On 2012/06/12 20:08, Stephen Farrell wrote: So would it work to add this: Note that relative ni URIs can occur, for example as shown in Figure 5. In such cases, user agents MUST construct the absolute URI as

Re: registries and designated experts

2012-06-13 Thread Thomas Narten
Maybe an IESG statement on this respect can help here. Is the existing text in RFC 5226 not sufficient? It contains extensive text about the purpose and role of designated experts, and was revised substantially the last time around to try and find a good middle ground between being overly

Re: [apps-discuss] APPSDIR review of draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-04

2012-06-13 Thread Alexey Melnikov
On 04/06/2012 20:01, Alexey Melnikov wrote: I have been selected as the Applications Area Directorate reviewer for this draft (for background on APPSDIR, please see http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorate ). Please resolve these comments along with any other

Re: Change in I-D announcement format

2012-06-13 Thread Russ Housley
Brian: There was no announcement that this change was about to be deployed; however, there was a long discussion of the change. It started with a request for the HTML version of the I-D instead of the plain text version. At the end of the discussion the decision was to use the Datatracker

Re: Change in I-D announcement format

2012-06-13 Thread Martin Rex
Russ Housley wrote: Brian: There was no announcement that this change was about to be deployed; however, there was a long discussion of the change. It started with a request for the HTML version of the I-D instead of the plain text version. At the end of the discussion the decision was to

Re: registries and designated experts

2012-06-13 Thread ned+ietf
It seems to me that if an expert reviewer thinks that something will do notable harm, they should decline to make a decision and defer it to the IETF at large so they are not an expert, they are a rubber stamp? bs. +1 More generally, the notion of appealing to the IETF at large,

Re: [Idr] Fwd: Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-idr-rfc4893bis-06.txt (BGP Support for Four-octet AS Number Space) to Proposed Standard

2012-06-13 Thread Enke Chen
Here is my reply to Claudio on the IDR list. Copying the IETF list. -- Hi, Claudio: Not sure if you are aware of the large scale outage that occurred a few years ago from the leak of the confed related segments by one implementation. At the

RE: Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-lineid-05.txt (The Line Identification Destination Option) to Experimental RFC

2012-06-13 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Suresh, Having the warnings in the draft is good but having a pointer to a document including a fair and detailed risk analysis is also valuable and worth to be acknowledged. Having that pointer is an invitation to people who will deploy this mechanism (I know some of them who are

Re: [decade] FW: Last Call: draft-farrell-decade-ni-07.txt (Naming Things with Hashes) to Proposed Standard

2012-06-13 Thread Jonathan A Rees
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Stephen Farrell stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie wrote: Hi Sam, On 06/09/2012 01:43 AM, Sam Hartman wrote: Add me as a +1 for the idea that content-type is important for this. I tend to agree with the arguments given so far. Namely, for some important use cases

Re: Last Call: draft-krishnan-nomcom-tools-01.txt (Requirements for IETF Nominations Committee tools) to Informational RFC

2012-06-13 Thread Russ Housley
I want to highlight one think in this document. The document says: There is an existing tool for supporting Nomcom work. The set of requirements specified in this document are mainly enhancement requirements or behavior changes to the existing tool. Unless otherwise stated all of

RFP: IETF Mail List Archiving, Web-Browsing Search Tool

2012-06-13 Thread IETF Administrative Director
The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) desires an IETF Mail List Archiving, Web-Browsing Search Tool that will improve email list archiving and searching. The IETF makes heavy use of electronic mail lists to conduct its work. IETF Participants frequently need to search the archives of

Re: Publishing the Tao as a web page

2012-06-13 Thread Russ Housley
Paul: It implies that the current RFC will become the initial web page content. I think that is not the case. Rather, the initial content will come from draft-hoffman-tao4677bis. Do you want draft-hoffman-tao4677bis to be published as the final RFC version in the Tao series? Russ On Jun

Re: Publishing the Tao as a web page

2012-06-13 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 16:06 -0400 Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com wrote: Paul: It implies that the current RFC will become the initial web page content. I think that is not the case. Rather, the initial content will come from draft-hoffman-tao4677bis. Do you want

Re: Publishing the Tao as a web page

2012-06-13 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Jun 13, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Russ Housley wrote: Paul: It implies that the current RFC will become the initial web page content. I think that is not the case. Rather, the initial content will come from draft-hoffman-tao4677bis. Good catch. I'll add explicit text in -02 that says that

Re: registries and designated experts

2012-06-13 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 08:48 -0400 Thomas Narten nar...@us.ibm.com wrote: Maybe an IESG statement on this respect can help here. Is the existing text in RFC 5226 not sufficient? It contains extensive text about the purpose and role of designated experts, and was revised

Re: registries and designated experts

2012-06-13 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Randy Bush wrote: It seems to me that if an expert reviewer thinks that something will do notable harm, they should decline to make a decision and defer it to the IETF at large so they are not an expert, they are a rubber stamp? bs. Expert reviewers should use their judgement, but that

Re: Last Call: draft-polk-ipr-disclosure-03.txt (Promoting Compliance with Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) Disclosure Rules) to Informational RFC

2012-06-13 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 4/30/12 10:27 AM, The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Promoting Compliance with Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) Disclosure Rules' draft-polk-ipr-disclosure-03.txt as Informational RFC The IESG

Last Call: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-20.txt (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Framework: Bearer Token Usage) to Proposed Standard

2012-06-13 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Web Authorization Protocol WG (oauth) to consider the following document: - 'The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Framework: Bearer Token Usage' draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-20.txt as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and