Re: [lisp] Last Call: (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread SM
At 22:16 20-11-2012, Geoff Huston wrote: The guidelines for IP address allocations were documented in RFC2050, adopted in November 1996 as a Best Current Practice. This document Some parts of RFC 2050 could be considered as Historic. As a FYI there is only one IANA policy about IPv6 [1].

Re: [lisp] Last Call: (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, > A possible course of action for the LISP Working Group and the IESG to > consider would be for the existing /32 address be documented as an IANA > Special Purpose Address allocation for use in supporting the current > LISP experiment, and for the LISP advocates to make their case for > parti

Re: [lisp] Last Call: (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Geoff Huston I don't have any comment, one way or another, on what seems to be the basic point of your note (about what role, if any, the IETF should play in allocation). However, there was one aspect I wanted to comment on (it's not clear, reading your note, if this was clear in you

RE: [lisp] Last Call: (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread George, Wes
> From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Noel Chiappa > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:49 AM > To: ietf@ietf.org; l...@ietf.org > Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu; jcur...@arin.net; pwil...@apnic.net; > i...@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [lisp] Last Call: (LISP > E

RE: [lisp] Last Call: (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: "George, Wes" > I don't think that expecting code to handle two blocks (the > experimental one and the permanent one) is asking too much We disagree. For me, it's extra code/complexity, and it buys you absolutely nothing at all. > If a single permanent allocation that ne

IETF Chair's Presentation at the Global Standards Symposium in Dubai

2012-11-21 Thread IETF Chair
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Re: [lisp] Last Call: (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:16:58 +1100 From:Geoff Huston Message-ID: <99b9866c-41d6-4784-aa69-cd25e5910...@apnic.net> I have no idea whether the allocation requested is reasonable or not, I haven't read the draft (and unless it becomes more widely used than currently, m

Re: [lisp] Last Call: (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Noel, >> I don't think that expecting code to handle two blocks (the >> experimental one and the permanent one) is asking too much > > We disagree. For me, it's extra code/complexity, and it buys you absolutely > nothing at all. I don't agree. See below. >> If a single permanent allocation t

RE: [lisp] Last Call: (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread George, Wes
> From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Noel Chiappa > > > If a single permanent allocation that never changes is truly > necessary > > Allocation != reservation. Nobody is asking for the entire chunk to be > _allocated_ (i.e. given out), just that it be _res

RE: [lisp] Last Call: (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: "George, Wes" >> Allocation != reservation. > You're hairsplitting on semantics in a way that is mostly unhelpful to > the discussion at hand. I _thought_ that the point of the messages from Geoff and others (who were questioning about how there were no details in the do

Re: [lisp] Last Call: (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Dino Farinacci
Make it an allocation for EIDs and ILNP can use it too. Dino On Nov 21, 2012, at 12:25 PM, "George, Wes" wrote: >> From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >> Noel Chiappa >> >>> If a single permanent allocation that never changes is truly >> necessary >> >> All

Re: [lisp] Last Call: (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Dino Farinacci
> A possible course of action for the LISP Working Group and the IESG to > consider would be for the existing /32 address be documented as an IANA > Special Purpose Address allocation for use in supporting the current > LISP experiment, and for the LISP advocates to make their case for > particular

Re: Gen-ART LC Review of draft-ietf-karp-routing-tcp-analysis-05.txt

2012-11-21 Thread Ben Campbell
Hi, thanks for the response. I removed sections that didn't seem to need further comment: On Nov 19, 2012, at 1:58 AM, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: [...] >> >> *** Minor issues *** : >> >> -- section 2.2, last paragraph: >> >> The IKE mention lacks context. Do you mean to suggest IKE with IP

Re: [lisp] Last Call: (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Geoff Huston
With respect Robert, I disagree with your line of argument and I disagree with your assertion that a reference to an existing RFC is "bogus under these circumstances" This eid draft does not claim to obsolete or update either the description of roles and responsibilities in RFC2860 or the directi