Re: [karp] Last Call: draft-ietf-karp-ops-model-07.txt (Operations Model for Router Keying) to Informational RFC

2013-07-29 Thread Danny McPherson
On Jul 29, 2013, at 4:54 AM, Sam Hartman hartmans-i...@mit.edu wrote: Hi. Yes I'm making a last call comment on a document I edit:-) During discussion of another document )(draft-ietf-karp-crypto-key-table), a routing directorate review brought up the concern that we don't talk about

Re: [karp] Last Call: draft-ietf-karp-ops-model-07.txt (Operations Model for Router Keying) to Informational RFC

2013-07-29 Thread Sam Hartman
Danny sent me private text that he believes is better than what I proposed. I like your text below except that signing is the wrong word. How about generation of integrity-protected messages? These messages are almost never digitally signed. Proposed text: Routers need to have tight

Re: Last Call: draft-bormann-cbor-04.txt (Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)) to Proposed Standard

2013-07-29 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 7/29/13 4:54 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: The question I want an answer to is whether this is going to be the only standard for a binary version of JSON allowed. That is certainly not what I heard during the APPSAWG session this morning: the intent is that this be one format among many.

Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials

2013-07-29 Thread SM
At 22:25 28-07-2013, Dave Crocker wrote: I've been finding discussion and actions about newcomers far more interesting this year, than most previous ones. So I think it's worth pressing on several fronts, to see how we can both accommodate such folk better, as well as be clear about when and

Re: moving more responsibility to working groups

2013-07-29 Thread John Curran
Jari - Thanks for the excellent writeup of the situation; the hypothesis regarding the problem and the experiment to address look to be a an appropriate response. Thanks! /John On Jul 29, 2013, at 5:07 AM, IETF Chair ch...@ietf.org wrote: I would like to report an experiment that the

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-emu-eap-tunnel-method-07.txt (Tunnel EAP Method (TEAP) Version 1) to Proposed Standard

2013-07-29 Thread Joseph Salowey (jsalowey)
On Jul 22, 2013, at 8:20 AM, Stefan Winter stefan.win...@restena.lu wrote: Hello, I didn't follow TEAP's creation process in enough detail, so may have missed some information. Apologies if what I write below is noise. I have two questions about TEAP Version 1 which I don't find

RE: [87all] IETF 87 - InterContinental Lunch Options

2013-07-29 Thread Adrian Farrel
Clarifications on Lunch Options at the InterContinental: Grab-N-Go is only available at the Marlene Bar. A limited variety of salads and currywurst will be available. And it was tasty. But turned out to be grab and wait for it to be prepared by a caring and meticulous chef Adrian

RE: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials (was: IETF87 Audio Streaming Info)

2013-07-29 Thread Moriarty, Kathleen
I will see what I can do and will share back the results. It may not be something that would be useful to all working groups, but I think it could help mine and some others. Thanks, Kathleen From: John Levine [jo...@taugh.com] Sent: Saturday, July 27,

Opus experiment via WebRTC at today's plenary

2013-07-29 Thread Simon Pietro Romano
Dear all, in view of today's plenary, we set up a short tutorial page on the WebRTC interface you can use to interact with the room if you are remote. You can find this stuff at the following URL: http://ietf87.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/WebRTC_Interface Hope this helps, Simon

Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials (was: IETF87 Audio Streaming Info)

2013-07-29 Thread Mary Barnes
We did a lunchtime tutorial for the CLUE WG in Vancouver. We had the Meetecho guys record it: http://ietf84.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/Recorded_Sessions#IETF84_CLUE_TUTORIAL It worked quite well I think. I believe these sorts of tutorials would be extremely helpful for a number of WGs. Having

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-emu-eap-tunnel-method-07.txt (Tunnel EAP Method (TEAP) Version 1) to Proposed Standard

2013-07-29 Thread Sam Hartman
Hi. While I don't mind clarifying the server ID discussion, I don't see that server ID has any relation to how the peer validates the name in the server certificate. Quoting section 7.6: 7.6. Server Certificate Validation As part of the TLS negotiation, the server presents a certificate to

Re: [websec] Last Call: draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-07.txt (HTTP Header Field X-Frame-Options) to Informational RFC

2013-07-29 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/29/13 11:37 AM, The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from the Web Security WG (websec) to consider the following document: - 'HTTP Header Field X-Frame-Options' draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-07.txt as Informational RFC

Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials

2013-07-29 Thread t . p .
Dave I think the points you make below are good, once the newcomer to the IETF has found their working group. This is not always easy. Fine if your interest is in OSPF, ISIS, TLS, TCPMaintenance but in other spheres, the IETF approach of choosing a 'witty' name seems to me less than welcoming.

Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials

2013-07-29 Thread Keith Moore
On Jul 29, 2013, at 3:59 PM, t.p. wrote: I think the points you make below are good, once the newcomer to the IETF has found their working group. This is not always easy. Fine if your interest is in OSPF, ISIS, TLS, TCPMaintenance but in other spheres, the IETF approach of choosing a

Re: [karp] Last Call: draft-ietf-karp-ops-model-07.txt (Operations Model for Router Keying) to Informational RFC

2013-07-29 Thread Danny McPherson
On Jul 29, 2013, at 5:35 AM, Sam Hartman hartmans-i...@mit.edu wrote: I like your text below except that signing is the wrong word. How about generation of integrity-protected messages? Yeah, that's what I meant.. New text WFM, thanks [again] Sam for addressing these concerns! -danny

Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials

2013-07-29 Thread John C Klensin
--On Monday, July 29, 2013 01:37 -0400 Brian Haberman br...@innovationslab.net wrote: ... One of the things that I ask the Internet Area chairs to do is send in a summary of their WG after each IETF meeting. Those summaries generally give folks a good idea of the current state of each WG.

RE: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-trill-directory-framework-06

2013-07-29 Thread Black, David
The -06 version of this draft resolves all of the concerns raised by the Gen-ART review of the -05 version - the -06 version is ready for publication as an Informational RFC. Thanks, --David -Original Message- From: Black, David Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:54 PM To:

Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials

2013-07-29 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 30/07/2013 06:18, John C Klensin wrote: --On Monday, July 29, 2013 01:37 -0400 Brian Haberman br...@innovationslab.net wrote: ... One of the things that I ask the Internet Area chairs to do is send in a summary of their WG after each IETF meeting. Those summaries generally give folks

moving more responsibility to working groups

2013-07-29 Thread IETF Chair
I would like to report an experiment that the IESG is starting. (There's also an associated blog article about this at http://www.ietf.org/blog/2013/07/the-role-of-working-groups/) Internet Drafts sent for approval as RFCs are reviewed by individuals during the IETF Last Call, the Area

Last Call: draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-07.txt (HTTP Header Field X-Frame-Options) to Informational RFC

2013-07-29 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Web Security WG (websec) to consider the following document: - 'HTTP Header Field X-Frame-Options' draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-07.txt as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this

BCP 6, RFC 6996 on Autonomous System (AS) Reservation for Private Use

2013-07-29 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. BCP 6 RFC 6996 Title: Autonomous System (AS) Reservation for Private Use Author: J. Mitchell Status: Best Current Practice Stream: