Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-reflections-00.txt]

2013-09-21 Thread Dave Crocker
On 9/21/2013 9:40 PM, Christian Huitema wrote: 1) Encourage protocol designs that rely on peer-to-peer transmission, rather than intermediate relays, because relays are natural targets for interception services. Unless you are interacting on the same local net segment, when is Internet communic

RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-reflections-00.txt]

2013-09-21 Thread Christian Huitema
> I got my arm slightly twisted to produce the attached: a simple > concatenation of some of the actionable suggestions made in the > discussion of PRISM and Bruce Schneier's call for action. Brian, This is a useful summary, but I would like to see a few additions: 1) Encourage protocol designs

RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-reflections-00.txt]

2013-09-21 Thread Christian Huitema
-Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:55 PM To: IETF discussion list Subject: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-reflections-00.txt] I got my arm slightly twisted to prod

Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-reflections-00.txt]

2013-09-21 Thread Masataka Ohta
Mark Nottingham wrote: >> Then, protocols not have any authoritative specification and >> should never be standardized and there should be no central >> authority to manage different versions of the protocols. > > From a PRISM viewpoint, the cost of parsing different formats, > understanding diff

Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-reflections-00.txt]

2013-09-21 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013, Stephen Farrell wrote: On 09/21/2013 02:42 PM, Roger Jørgensen wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: I got my arm slightly twisted to produce the attached: a simple concatenation of some of the actionable suggestions made in the discussion of PR

Re: Last Call: (Recommendations on filtering of IPv4 packets containing IPv4 options) to Best Current Practice

2013-09-21 Thread C. M. Heard
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013, The IESG wrote: > The IESG has received a request from the Operational Security > Capabilities for IP Network Infrastructure WG (opsec) to consider the > following document: > - 'Recommendations on filtering of IPv4 packets containing IPv4 options.' >as Best Current Practic

Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-reflections-00.txt]

2013-09-21 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > > On 09/21/2013 02:42 PM, Roger Jørgensen wrote: >> There are one thing I don't see mention in your draft, the discussion >> that moved from ietf@ and over into lisp@ about encryption by default >> wherever it's possible. It's one concre

Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-reflections-00.txt]

2013-09-21 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 09/21/2013 02:42 PM, Roger Jørgensen wrote: > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Brian E Carpenter > wrote: >> I got my arm slightly twisted to produce the attached: a simple >> concatenation of some of the actionable suggestions made in the >> discussion of PRISM and Bruce Schneier's call for

Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-reflections-00.txt]

2013-09-21 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > I got my arm slightly twisted to produce the attached: a simple > concatenation of some of the actionable suggestions made in the > discussion of PRISM and Bruce Schneier's call for action. There are one thing I don't see mention in your