RE: IPv4 Outage Planned for IETF 71 Plenary

2007-12-18 Thread Aki Niemi
ti, 2007-12-18 kello 12:39 -0800, ext Hallam-Baker, Phillip kirjoitti: Run a split network: IPv4 behind a honking great NAT IPv6 with external routable IP address Then attendees have a choice of challenges: 1) Make the applications you need all work from behind an IPv4 NAT 2) Get

Re: IPv4 Outage Planned for IETF 71 Plenary

2007-12-16 Thread Aki Niemi
pe, 2007-12-14 kello 20:20 -0500, ext Edward Lewis kirjoitti: What's the worst that can happen - we have to listen to the plenary speakers without jabber sessions? Then again, there is XEP-0174. Cheers, Aki ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

Re: On firewall traversal vs. bypass

2007-08-01 Thread Aki Niemi
ext Melinda Shore wrote: On 7/31/07 4:09 AM, Aki Niemi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Continuing on something heard at the technical plenary last week. There were people complaining that while protocols like STUN/TURN and ICE are traversing NAT, they are in fact bypassing firewall policies, which

On firewall traversal vs. bypass

2007-07-31 Thread Aki Niemi
Continuing on something heard at the technical plenary last week. There were people complaining that while protocols like STUN/TURN and ICE are traversing NAT, they are in fact bypassing firewall policies, which they should not be doing. I think it should be noted that ICE [1] does *not*

Re: project management (from Town Hall meeting)

2005-08-04 Thread Aki Niemi
Hi, ext Henk Uijterwaal wrote: At 10:05 04/08/2005, Henning Schulzrinne wrote: I would never suggest adopting a 4-year project schedule, but would suggest a number of simple project management techniques and goals: - As part of WG chair training, train WG chairs in basic project management

Re: I'm not the microphone police, but ...

2005-08-02 Thread Aki Niemi
My 2 cents: I firmly believe in the individual and voluntary aspects of IETF attendance. I also belong to both categories; sure my employer pays for the expenses, but nobody forced me to come over. (Come on it's Paris after all, although I have gone to all of the Minneapolis meetings, too. ;) I

Re: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2005-01-03 Thread Aki Niemi
ext Glen Zorn (gwz) wrote: Ha Ha. You (and others) have made the point quite well that the majority of IETFers are probably hardy enough to suffer through the week without actually dying. So what? The real question is why we must suffer at all (I'm actually rather surprised that Phoenix has not

Re: [Ietf] New .mobi, .xxx, ... TLDs?

2004-04-29 Thread Aki Niemi
ext Steven M. Bellovin wrote: Sure there are. Here's a direct quote from the .mobi proposal: Businesses and consumers that utilise mobile devices will be able to take advantage of a wide range of Internet services and content under the mTLD that have been specifically

How to get more reviewers for documents

2003-03-20 Thread aki . niemi
Hi, I'm going to half bake an idea here on how to get people more involved. There are on-line gaming communities on the Internet that are loosely assembled on a game site, there are usually no memberships, and people group together to form klans and arrange games against other klans or teams.

RE: How to get more reviewers for documents

2003-03-20 Thread aki . niemi
Well, as with any type of incentives system, how you design the meters is critical. You might actually take away points for writing I-Ds, as Harald was suggesting in another thread, or only assign points for docuemtn reviews. But even if this scoring system isn't such a good idea, at least I

RE: How to get more reviewers for documents

2003-03-20 Thread aki . niemi
Right, and soon after that people would start listing their RFCs in their resumes... The point is that this scoring system already exists in the IETF, IMO. An author of an RFC gets his/her name on the front page which works in two ways: the authors get recognition for their work, but at the

RE: Muttered at the IESG Open Mike...

2003-03-19 Thread aki . niemi
It's incredibly unrealistic, but don't you really want to charge more for Internet-Drafts on dumb ideas? The problem with this is that dumb ideas sometimes later turn out to be bright ideas. Should the author in those cases get refunded, perhaps with interest? Cheers, Aki

Jabber BOF afterthoughts

2002-07-18 Thread aki . niemi
Hi Folks, I happened to be at the Jabber BOF, which since has turned out to be a hot topic, at least judging from the discussions at the IESG plenary. As far as I understood, the objectives of the Jabber community were, that they mainly wanted a place for the protocol documentation to be