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From: Martin Rex [mailto:m...@sap.com]
Sent: 07 October 2013 21:56
To: Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
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a majority rule- a simple majority rule
Majorities come in different forms or degrees and the fact that 'rough
consensus' is often taken to mean 67% or 75%, as a rule of thumb can
make this confusing.
From what you've written, your basic point seems to be that 51% isn't
One draft I'm working on references some standard NIST cryptographic documents.
(RFCs don't include everything we need.) I need to check some details therein.
Unfortunately the current US government shutdown has taken NIST's website,
including those documents, offline. And (not considering
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From: Ralph Droms [mailto:rdroms.i...@gmail.com]
Sent: 03 October 2013 12:11
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It's definitely an ISO term, I see it used for features of C++.
There's then discussion even there of what it means. It is, I think, meant to
be used for we don't think you should use this, there's something better, and
this is a warning that it may get removed in a future version. In the case
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From: Michelle Cotton [mailto:michelle.cot...@icann.org]
Sent: 29 August 2013 15:53
To: Dearlove, Christopher (UK); t.p.; ietf
Subject: Re: Deprecate
We are working on 5226bis right now and have a plans
That's 20 minutes per person of course.
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From: Joe Abley [mailto:jab...@hopcount.ca]
Sent: 27 June 2013 18:22
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RFC 6234 contains, embedded in it, code to implement various functions,
including SHA-2.
Extracting that code from the RFC is not a clean process. In addition the code
must have existed unembedded before being embedded.
Is that code available from the IETF or elsewhere?
(I have tried some
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Comments below, marked . I think (though I need my co-authors to agree of
course) that a draft with these revisions (and any others we need) will be
appropriate following any other IETF LC comments.
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Communications,
If always meeting in one place, we should obviously consult the work on where
is central, which shows London at the top of the list. Twice.
(Yes, I do know where I've made a deliberate error in reaching that conclusion.)
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Lloyd Wood
quiet time on a plane can be productive time.
Economy class or something better?
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Perhaps there should be a gold dot for past service. Maybe a silver dot for ten
years, a gold dot for twenty.
(Slightly non-serious, but also slightly serious.)
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You need at least two more properties
(iii) High technical standard products
(iv) Efficient
All the openness and fairness in the world is no use if it produces bad
products,
or if it produces little or no product, or product so late it's no use.
(That wording is tailored to protocols etc.
I've no idea about the example quoted, but I can see some of their motivation.
TCP's assumptions (really simplified) that loss of packet = congestion =
backoff
aren't necessarily so in a wireless network, where packets can be lost without
congestion. This means that TCP into, out of, or across,
, Christopher (UK) wrote:
Given the ever increasing number of mobile devices, one could argue that the
world
has never been more dependent on radio spectrum allocation.
If you don't insist on allocating fixed bandwidths, CSMA/CA takes care
of most of issues
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Sent: 03 January 2013 12:52
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Subject: Re: WCIT outcome
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Radio spectrum allocation was a critical task at the time (it still is,
although the world doesn't depend that much on it anymore),
Given the ever increasing number of mobile devices, one could argue that the
world
has never been more dependent on radio spectrum allocation.
I've certainly been to BOFs where I might think this is a new topic to
discover that it's actually indistinguishable from a WG I just hadn't attended
before - the documents already exist, and the inner circle of who knows who is
already in place.
(The inner circle effect can be seen by
If someone wants to provide guidance on how to do a least bad job
with Outlook, that will be gratefully received. But advice that says
don't use Outlook will be filed with the advice that says pick
another employer to work for.
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A number of comments on draft-olsrv2-manet-olsrv2-15 were provided by Mr.
Abdussalam Baryun. The authors have reviewed these comments and do not feel
that they warrant any changes. (The authors do however intend to make some
other minor changes to produce a version -16 based on other comments
Dublin's problem was that the venue was isolated from the city. This has also
been the case with e.g. San Diego. (I'm assuming no personal car.) Contrast
with Minneapolis (and several other places) where you were right in the city.
Being in a city is better for lunch and dinner options, taking
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is noise) and the ability to plan ahead to only attend
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I think the main (as in the one more people would care about) issue here (UK)
isn't a religious clash, it's a public holiday clash (Friday and Monday).
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Marshall Eubanks
The closest to truly antipodal pair of places I know of in common use
are Hawaii to South Africa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipodes has lists of alternatives.
(Verify before use.)
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You could start by looking at MANET work, both in the WG of that
name and work outside the IETF under that name and as ad hoc
networks (the mobile in MANET can be misleading, D for dynamic
might be mor to the point) and mesh networks. There are real
networks (such as the Freifunk network in
RFC 5226 (BCP 26) says
IANA must be given a set of
guidelines that allow it to make allocation decisions with minimal
subjectivity and without requiring any technical expertise with
respect to the protocols that make use of a registry.
and goes on to discuss categories of unassigned
I would not consider that a link to Wikipedia is ever appropriate in an
IETF draft. If it were, then an exact date and time would need to be
included in the reference, but I'd be unhappy even with that. (This is
not for copyright reasons.)
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There is a bunch of RFCs with references to Wikipedia:
I can only disagree with the practice.
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That can still be corrected (revive
draft-ietf-roll-protocols-survey-07).
That was dropped because some people had various issues with it.
That draft, very roughly speaking, said none of these existing
protocols do what we want because they fail to meet the ideal we
have set for these various
I think
is very likely (if not certain) that right now the IETF is operating
in violation of the European Union's Data Protection Directive,
nope, never while they're in the U.S. National data protection laws
do
not apply for
1. 3.1. MANDATORY
This is the strongest requirement and for an implementation to
ignore
it there MUST be a valid and serious reason.
That is also neither my, not my dictionary's (compulsory, admitting
no option) interpretation of the word in everyday use.
So there was this article in the Mercury News this AM
about the Internet winning the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize
Just a nomination, one of 237. Though the one getting
the most buzz it would appear. (The full list is apparently
not published.)
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Just for the record, because I think it's a data point that's relevant
to this discussion: I have never been able to get text-format RFCs to
print properly on either Windows or Mac.
I have found that a painless way to do so is to open the .txt file
with Word (Office 2003). Uses Courier and
http://twitter.com/joebaptista/status/9555178362
I'm probably not alone in working for a company that blocks
twitter.com, and as the very nature of tweets is that they
are short, posting the tweet rather than the link on lists
such as this might make more sense.
Actually (since I have access
The TXT versions do not print on my printer and have not printed
reliably on any printer I have ever owned.
I discovered by accident that, on my machine, simply opening a
text version in Microsoft Word gives a document which prints
properly, page breaks and all. (10 point Courier I think.)
I asked a colleague who is not involved in the IETF for a
comment, to see how it passed test 1 below. His first
reaction was positive. But then we noticed a problem.
He's running Firefox with noscript. He gets a simplified
version of the left hand bar - no subentries. And there
is no indication
Putting aside whether I could buy such a machine, and assuming
taking it out of the US would be OK policy-wise (that I'd have
to check, I suspect it's within the letter but not the spirit
of the policy) as soon as it's outside the US it's a company
machine I couldn't take back in. Puchasing
From: John C Klensin [mailto:john-i...@jck.com]
Machines in the netbook category have gotten very cheap
(cheaper than IETF registration fees, for example). While I
would not expect your company to change policy, obtaining a few
of those machines and imaging them to contain nothing in local
Alexa Morris
Actually, the Terminal Room will have two laptops set up for attendee
use; these are traditionally used primarily for printing (boarding
passes, etc) but are available for other uses as well.
That's useful to know. I did enquire of the Secretariat
(reference rt.amsl.com
I believe this to be on-topic for this list based on the
summary of on-topic subjects. However I don't see any
similar subjects recently, so apologies if there is a
batter place, and a pointer to it would be appreciated.
I have had it confirmed by the secretariat that the terminal
room at IETF
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