Re: IETF technical plenary: the end of application protocols

2011-03-23 Thread Henry Sinnreich
It is really hard to avoid this discussion, but one cannot let such nonsense stand, especially in the IETF. With the work on SIP participants very early on realized that there are other organizations interested in real-time communication. This was not really seen as a problem given that

Re: Call for a Jasmine Revolution in the IETF: Privacy, Integrity, Obscurity

2011-03-10 Thread Henry Sinnreich
+1 Thanks, Henry On 3/10/11 12:24 PM, Ted Hardie ted.i...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Ed Juskevicius edj@gmail.com wrote: I also recall a Plenary presentation during IETF 57 in Vienna which suggested a reversal in the IETF's previous stance on this topic.

Re: Running Code

2009-03-04 Thread Henry Sinnreich
Brian, Having running code only as a guideline has not served the IETF well lately, since it is largely ignored. I am still cringing during the IETF SIMPLE meetings when we use Jabber IM that has the code free and available. Would the SIMPLE WG have had the mandatory requirement of running

I-D on P2P Status and Requirements

2008-05-14 Thread Henry Sinnreich
The I-D ³P2P Status and Requirements² is a useful start, though it points to many items that have to be discussed and corrected, such as: * This is a bandwidth view only of the (elephant) problem. The correct title should specify this and could be for example: ³P2P Bandwidth Issues: Status and

RE: [MMUSIC] The fragementation of NAT traversal per application is unfortunate

2008-02-27 Thread Henry Sinnreich
mentioned? Thanks, Henry -Original Message- From: Rémi Denis-Courmont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:16 AM To: Henry Sinnreich Cc: Magnus Westerlund; Cullen Jennings; Peterson, Jon; Gonzalo Camarillo; Jeff Goldberg (jgoldber); Philip Matthews; Lars Eggert

RE: [Sipping] Last Call: draft-ietf-sipping-service-examples (SessionInitiation Protocol Service Examples) to BCP

2007-11-12 Thread Henry Sinnreich
interoperability. Henry Sinnreich -Original Message- From: Elwell, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:59 AM To: ietf@ietf.org; IETF-Announce Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Sipping] Last Call: draft-ietf-sipping-service-examples (SessionInitiation Protocol

RE: [Sipforum-discussion] RE: Collecting media statistics for SIP calls?

2004-11-01 Thread Henry Sinnreich
Folks, Thats what RAQMON doesin a media gnostioc fashion. RAQMON is an excellent approach for network elements The media statistics for SIP calls are intended at the application level in endpoints, such as when using an Instant Messenger client for voice or a soft phone, or a SIP phone, or a

RE: [Sipforum-discussion] Why SIP??

2004-10-29 Thread Henry Sinnreich
mobility and integration of communications with applications based on the SIP events architecture and it seems quite clear that H.323 is not even in the same class as SIP. Thanks, Henry Henry Sinnreich MCI 1201 E. Arapaho Rd./Office 1020 Richardson, Texas 75081 USA -Original Message- From

RE: Solving the right problems ...

2003-09-03 Thread Henry Sinnreich
Is the sender anonymous or could we know name and affiliation? Thanks, Henry Sinnreich MCI From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re

RE: Solving the right problems ...

2003-09-03 Thread Henry Sinnreich
Is the sender anonymous or could we know name and affiliation?   Thanks,   Henry Sinnreich MCI   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL

RE: Solving the right problems ...

2003-09-02 Thread Henry Sinnreich
Could one use the NAPTR concept to create a new identifier space with specific dynamics? It would take two lookups: one to DNS to get the NAPTR and one to resolve the NAPTR identifier into an IP address. We will be soon able to test the speed of such a mechanism with the NAPTR client built

RE: WG Review: Centralized Conferencing (xcon)

2003-08-22 Thread Henry Sinnreich
systems? Thanks, Henry -Original Message- From: Keith Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:01 PM To: Henry Sinnreich Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: WG Review: Centralized Conferencing (xcon)

2003-08-21 Thread Henry Sinnreich
] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:55 AM To: Henry Sinnreich Cc: 'vinton g. cerf'; 'Marshall Rose'; 'Peterson, Jon'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Alan Johnston; Robert Sparks Subject: Re: WG Review: Centralized Conferencing (xcon) Greetings. Henry, If we wanted to do a SIP-only conferencing

RE: WG Review: Centralized Conferencing (xcon)

2003-08-21 Thread Henry Sinnreich
requirements for conferencing? If this was an emotional response, you need not reply. Henry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Moore Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:36 PM To: Henry Sinnreich Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: WG Review: Centralized Conferencing (xcon)

2003-08-20 Thread Henry Sinnreich
of millions of desktops: The IETF SIP work is already the de facto standard. Let's just stay focused. It is thus entirely appropriate XCON should be a SIP oriented WG for centralized conferencing. Thanks, Henry Sinnreich MCI -Original Message- From: vinton g. cerf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [Sip] Eating our own Dog Food...could the IAB and IESG use SIP forconference calls

2003-03-26 Thread Henry Sinnreich
So pure Internet SIP won't work for all of us any time soon. Glad to clear up the confusion on this point. People on the PSTN can dial in and can be called from the SIP conferencing server by using a service provider that has standard PSTN-SIP gateways. The typical SIP voice conference has both

RE: [Sip] Eating our own Dog Food...could the IAB and IESG use SIP forconference calls

2003-03-25 Thread Henry Sinnreich
There are excellent SIP voice conferencing bridges available, such as from snom AG and eDial. They can be used with various soft clients such as the Windows Messenger, HotSIP Active Contacts or the Pingtel instant expressa, or any SIP phone. I have taken the liberty of copying here the contacts