Re: Recall Petition Submission

2012-11-07 Thread Lynn St.Amour
Olafur, this is to acknowledge receipt of your petition. I also inform the IETF community that I will appoint a Recall Committee Chair shortly. Regards, Lynn St.Amour Internet Society President & CEO On Nov 6, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: > > Lynn, > &g

Re: Internet Society joins Liberty Alliance Management Board: Why?

2009-03-01 Thread Lynn St.Amour
Hi Dave and Hannes, Thank you for triggering this useful discussion. And thank you to Brian, Patrik and Lucy for their comments as well. A number of good points have been raised both on the topic and others on the ISOC-IETF intersection.These are items to be taken up with the ISOC Boa

Re: "Controlled" vs "Managed" (Re: ASCII diff of ISOC-proposed changes to BCP)

2005-02-11 Thread Lynn St.Amour
Leslie, this works for ISOC. Lynn At 11:15 AM -0500 2/11/05, Leslie Daigle wrote: That makes the entire abstract: " This document describes the structure of the IETF Administrative Support Activity (IASA) as an activity housed within the Internet Society (ISOC). It defines the roles and responsibil

Re: Call for ISOC pre-indication of consent: BCP-06

2005-02-08 Thread Lynn St.Amour
Per Harald's request, ISOC's legal counsel reviewed the latest version of the IASA BCP and suggested a number of minor changes. These changes are not intended to be substantive, but rather to accommodate legalese or to improve clarity (in a legal sense). The changes have been reviewed by and a

RE: Resolution? #787 terminology and issue 794 - naming of accou nts

2005-01-26 Thread Lynn St.Amour
At 1:25 PM +0100 1/26/05, Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote: Having seen some more reactions... I think we can solve the "general Ledger Accounts" issue with a very simple addition as follows: As discussed with ISOC, funds managed by IASA shall

Re: FYI: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-iasa-bcp-04.txt (fwd)

2005-01-25 Thread Lynn St.Amour
At 8:16 AM +0100 1/17/05, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: Thanks for the comments, Lynn! --On søndag, januar 16, 2005 18:03:35 -0500 "Lynn St.Amour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- In 2.2 principle 8 - note: this is not a critical change, but it may be helpful to more accurately

Re: Resolution? #787 terminology - in particular "ISOC Standards Pillar"

2005-01-25 Thread Lynn St.Amour
Margaret, I agree with your point below but I do feel it is helpful to state what ISOC's intended implementation is: a Cost Center within ISOC. This should not override the section (principle) you quote below. Perhaps we can add language at the beginning of this section to clarify all this (or

Re: Resolution? #787 terminology - in particular "ISOC Standards Pillar"

2005-01-25 Thread Lynn St.Amour
technical (terms) meets accountancy? I'll address Margaret's comments separately, as while I understand and agree with her position, I think it's appropriate to provide a bit more specificity in the BCP if only to minimize surprises downstream. Regards, Lynn St.Amour ___

Re: Naming accounts (Re: Last Call Comments on draft-iasa-bcp-04.txt)

2005-01-17 Thread Lynn St.Amour
At 1:57 PM +0100 1/17/05, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: The mind-picture I think we want to establish through using "accounts" is "rows of numbers that can be added up to get totals" - we want to know what it's costing, and where the money goes. I'm worried we're getting too detailed but in the

Re: Last Call Comments on draft-iasa-bcp-04.txt

2005-01-16 Thread Lynn St.Amour
At 8:17 PM -0500 1/15/05, Margaret Wasserman wrote: I have a few comments on the latest IASA BCP draft, attached below. I don't think that I disagree with the document in any major way, but there are a few sections that are unclear enough (to me, anyway) that I'd like to see them clarified befor

Re: FYI: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-iasa-bcp-04.txt (fwd)

2005-01-16 Thread Lynn St.Amour
At 11:43 PM +0100 1/14/05, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: Folks, as you can see, version -04 is out. It should reflect pretty accurately the items that seemed to have consensus as of last night; on still open issues, it contains either the same text as before or some proposed text. Harald, I hav

Re: Issue #740: Section 2.2 & 5.6 - IASA BCP -02 Reserves [was RE: I ASA BCP -02 Reserves - section 2.2 /7 and 5.6]

2004-12-28 Thread Lynn St.Amour
At 8:44 AM -0500 12/26/04, Margaret Wasserman wrote: Hi Bert, W.r.t. the "divisional" vs "cost center" coounting We got the text on "Divisional Accounting" and on "sepearet set of accounts" from Glenn Ricart, so what should it be. If we do make a change we need to make it consistent over the wh

Re: Issue #737: Section 5.3 - Designated Donations [was RE: IASA BCP -02 Designated Donations - section 5.3]

2004-12-28 Thread Lynn St.Amour
Hi Bert, At 3:40 PM +0100 12/23/04, Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote: Inline -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Leslie Daigle Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 22:29 To: Brian E Carpenter Cc: ietf@ietf.org; Lynn St.Amour Subject: Re: IASA BCP

Re: IASA BCP -02 Designated Donations - section 5.3

2004-12-14 Thread Lynn St.Amour
At 10:37 AM -0800 12/13/04, Eric Rescorla wrote: I agree with that, but that doesn't mean that our interests are entirely aligned. Indeed, partnerships are a situation in which it pays to take particular care to one's contracting arrangements because the respective point of alignment and disalignme

Re: IASA BCP -02 Designated Donations - section 5.3

2004-12-13 Thread Lynn St.Amour
At 5:46 AM -0800 12/13/04, Eric Rescorla wrote: As I read this section, the intention is to ensure that donors who wish their funds to be used by IASA can do so easily, rather than being forced to donate them to ISOC in general. I don't think this is actually an instance in which our interests are

Re: draft-ietf-iasa-bcp-02: section 5.4 - oher ISOC support

2004-12-13 Thread Lynn St.Amour
At 2:41 PM +0100 12/13/04, Brian E Carpenter wrote: I've gone various ways on this, but I think that imposing a duty of regular payment on ISOC is appropriate - so that paying the IETF late doesn't become a tempting cash-flow management tool. I would be happy with a phrasing that asks for at least

IASA BCP -02 Reserves - section 2.2 /7 and 5.6

2004-12-12 Thread Lynn St.Amour
Bert, Rob, please find below comments on "reserves". Thanks again for all your efforts. Section 2.2 7. The IASA shall work with ISOC to (?) establish a target for a reserve fund to cover normal operating expenses and meeting expenses in accordance with prudent planning, and ISOC shall work

IASA BCP -02 Designated Donations - section 5.3

2004-12-12 Thread Lynn St.Amour
Re: ISOC shall create and maintain appropriate structures and programs to coordinate donations intended to support the work of the IETF, and these will include mechanisms for both in-kind and direct contributions to the work supported by IASA. Since ISOC will be the sole entity through who

Re: Adminrest: section 5

2004-12-02 Thread Lynn St.Amour
Harald, Scott, This is much better and gives a good degree of flexibility. Regards, Lynn At 11:31 AM +0100 12/2/04, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: I don't think there is any principle in 2.2 that forms a basis for saying that we need to aim towards limiting IETF support to meeting fees and design

Re: Adminrest: more on sec 7

2004-12-02 Thread Lynn St.Amour
Harald, yes, that would read much better and is closer to what I believe our combined intent was/is. Regards, Lynn At 11:23 AM +0100 12/2/04, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: I think a global s/deposited in/credited to/ will do the right thing, given Rob's explanation of "divisional accounting",

Re: AdminRest: Blowing the bolts

2004-11-28 Thread Lynn St.Amour
At 10:16 AM -0500 11/28/04, John C Klensin wrote: Hi. As we try to raise other things back to the level of principles, I want to address one that seems to underlie some of the thinking that has led to what I believe to be too-specific, and probably misguided, provisions in the draft. snip... (2) A

Re: There is no proposal on the table for *IETF* incorporation (Was: Explosive bolts [Re: Options for IETF administrative restructuring]

2004-09-13 Thread Lynn St.Amour
At 4:49 PM -0500 9/8/04, Pete Resnick wrote: On 9/8/04 at 4:54 PM -0400, Lynn St.Amour wrote: Should the IETF incorporate as a separate entity... To date, there has been no proposal, in Carl's document or otherwise as far as I know, for *the IETF* to incorporate as a separate entity. There

Re: Explosive bolts [Re: Options for IETF administrative restructuring]

2004-09-08 Thread Lynn St.Amour
At 8:55 AM -0400 9/8/04, John C Klensin wrote: --On Wednesday, 08 September, 2004 09:21 +0200 Brian E Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And that's exactly why the liability insurance policy held by > ISOC covers IETF "officials" today. Would someone who actually knows or can find out care t

Re: Publishing the budget (Re: Fwd: Re: Financial state of theIETF - to be presented Wednesday)

2003-03-19 Thread Lynn St.Amour
easons, so there is no direct individual solicitation (unless the opportunity presents itself at the IETF meeting itself). All interested parties though are welcome to just reply to this memo. Lynn St.Amour President - ISOC