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2013-05-13 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
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2012-10-03 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
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2012-05-25 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
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Re: [PWE3] FW: LastCall: draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-03.txt(Allocationof an Associated Channel Code Point for Use byITU-T Ethernet basedOAM) to Informational RFC

2012-03-23 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Tom, I have no objections to using the RFC 2119 key words, I am not sure if that is appropriate in an informational track document, I expect that our AD will provide some guidance. Regards, Malcolm t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com 23/03/2012 05:50 AM To Loa Andersson l...@pi.nu,

Re: [PWE3] FW: Last Call: draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-03.txt(Allocation of an Associated Channel Code Point for Use byITU-T Ethernet based OAM) to Informational RFC

2012-03-21 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Loa, Thank you for your comments and suggestions, please see in line below. Regards, Malcolm ietf-boun...@ietf.org wrote on 12/03/2012 04:31:43 AM: Loa Andersson l...@pi.nu Sent by: ietf-boun...@ietf.org 12/03/2012 04:31 AM To ietf@ietf.org cc Subject Re: [PWE3] FW: Last

Re: הנדון: RE: Last Call:draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-03.txt(Allocationof an Associated Channel Code Point for Use byITU-T Ethernetbased OAM) to Informational RFC

2012-03-21 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
All, Two points to consider: 1) Below it is stated: In the future, all codepoint allocations to the ITU-T should be tied to one specific, dated revision of their specification only. This is similar to the ITU-T's own processes, such as section 2.2.1 of Rec. A.5, which requires a version

RE: הנדון: RE: Last Call:draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-03.txt(Allocationof an Associated Channel Code Point for Use byITU-T Ethernetbased OAM) to Informational RFC

2012-03-21 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Nurit, Section 2 “Scope of the Ethernet based OAM ACH Type” contains the following text: The code point allocated by this document is intended to be used only for Ethernet based OAM messages, defined in the ITU-T Recommendation [G.8113.1], carried in the G-ACh . These Ethernet based OAM

Re: Questions about draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point

2012-01-12 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Hi Adrian, Please see in line below for my response to your questions. I will post a revised version of the draft tomorrow. Regards, Malcolm Adrian Farrel adr...@olddog.co.uk Sent by: ietf-boun...@ietf.org 09/12/2011 05:49 AM Please respond to adr...@olddog.co.uk To

RE: Questions about draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point

2012-01-11 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Hi Adrian, I can confirm that the draft is requesting a code point for the version of G.8113.1 that was forwarded to WTSA by SG 15, this is the same as the draft that was determined in February 2011, I am not anticipating any changes prior to the approval decision at WTSA. None of the

Re: Questions about draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point

2011-12-20 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Hi Adrian, Thank you for finding time to respond to this request. As you know I was attending the same 2 week SG 15 meeting and was probably at least as busy as you given my official role in the meeting. I will update draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point early in the new year based on the

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-24 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Loa, As per my previous email , I have only seen one response to the 12 points that I raised, I do not agree with your assessment of this document. Just to remind you of the points made by myself and several others on SONET and SDH: SONET is a true subset of SDH: The SDH standard supports

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-24 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Loa, As per my previous email , I have only seen one response to the 12 points that I raised, I do not agree with your assessment of this document. Just to remind you of the points made by myself and several others on SONET and SDH: SONET is a true subset of SDH: The SDH standard supports

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC - comment 2

2011-10-15 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Loa, I still do not understand how you can claim that the words from slide 113 of RFC 5317 and quoted in section 1.1 of draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01: It is technically feasible that the existing MPLS architecture can be extended to meet the requirements of a Transport profile

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC - comment 2

2011-10-14 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Loa, I have added - comment 2 to the subject line and deleted all the other comments. I cannot find section 1.1 or the text one OAM solution in the PDF version of RFC 5317. The last paragraph of section 1 states: In the case of a conflict between the summary and the slides, the slides take

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-13 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Below are my comments on this draft, these are in addition to the comments that I have provided previously. I also support the comments that propose the deletion of sections 4, 5 and 6. I have numbered my comments (1-12) to simplify identification for those who wish to respond. I do not

Re: ITU-T Beijing meeting [Was: Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC]

2011-10-10 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Adrian, A similar statement is already included in draft-tsb-mpls-tp-ach-ptn-01 5.3. LSP or PW originating in a PTN network and terminating in a PSN network In this case the PW (or LSP) originates (or terminates) in a PTN and terminates (or originates) in a PSN. The default OAM for

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-09 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Huub, I agree. Regards, Malcolm Huub van Helvoort huubatw...@gmail.com Sent by: ietf-boun...@ietf.org 09/10/2011 07:42 AM Please respond to huubatw...@gmail.com To IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org cc Subject Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-09 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Russ, You may not be fully aware of the context of the statement in RFC 5317: As the co-chair of the JTW and co-editor of the JWT report I must point out the context of the text that you have quoted: First, the text is on slide 113, slide 12 states: This presentation is a collection of

Re: 答复: [mpls] 回复: R: FW: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-06 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Brian, The second solution already exists, (300,00+ nodes already deployed - see other emails on this thread). We must acknowledge this and find the most cost effective way of allowing interconnection. That is best achieved by recognizing the Ethernet tool set based solution and defining

RE: [mpls] FW: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-06 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Rui, Excellent point, I fully agree, we need to focus on the 99% that is identical and not cause the 1% that is different (for good reasons) to cause a rift that will drive further divergence. Regards, Malcolm Rui Costa rco...@ptinovacao.pt Sent by: ietf-boun...@ietf.org 05/10/2011 11:06

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-06 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Brian, Thank you for your constructive suggestion. I will attempt to start a discussion on a new thread in a few days - I am currently travelling with very limited time windows when I can access the Internet. Regards, Malcolm Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com 06/10/2011

RE: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-05 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Rolf, I agree with the points that you have raised, we need to make more efficient use of our time to address the real technical issues. To expand on this point, one major factor that has not been considered in this draft is that significant deployments (300,000+ nodes) of a second solution

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-03 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Brian, I think that points that Huub is raising are: a) The text quoted from page 113 RFC 5317 the architecture allows for a single OAM technology for LSPs, PWs is being used as (part of) the rational for only having a single OAM solution, however page 12 of RFC 5317 states that the

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-09-29 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
All, From my personal knowledge, the comments from Huub are accurate. (I was an active participant at the 1988 ITU meeting in Seoul where the SDH frame format was agreed). The IETF should not publish a consensus approved draft that contains inaccurate information about a standard that was

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-09-29 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Tom, Please see in line below. Regards, Malcolm Thomas Nadeau tnad...@lucidvision.com Sent by: ietf-boun...@ietf.org 29/09/2011 07:48 AM To huubatw...@gmail.com cc The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, IETF-Announce ietf-annou...@ietf.org Subject Re: Last Call:

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-09-29 Thread Malcolm . BETTS
Tom, Please see in line below. Regards, Malcolm Thomas Nadeau tnad...@lucidvision.com Sent by: ietf-boun...@ietf.org 29/09/2011 09:18 AM To huubatw...@gmail.com cc The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, IETF-Announce ietf-annou...@ietf.org Subject Re: Last Call: