Re: Pigeon flies past broadband in data speed race

2010-10-06 Thread Richard Bennett
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Re: Pigeon flies past broadband in data speed race

2010-09-16 Thread Richard Bennett
I suppose this means pigeon breeders will be allowed to apply for broadband subsidies under ARRA in the USA. Richard Bennett On Sep 16, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Marshall Eubanks t...@americafree.tv wrote: On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote: sh don't say it out loud

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-15 Thread Richard Bennett
Ethernet was the absence of flow control, which caused bad things to happen to the Internet when IMPs were replaced by Ethernets. RB On 9/15/2010 12:04 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: On Sep 14, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Richard Bennett wrote: I wonder how many people realize that X.25 was a direct descendant

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-15 Thread Richard Bennett
migrate over to the Internet History list, internet-hist...@postel.org; we're way off-topic here. RB On 9/15/2010 3:00 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: On Sep 15, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Richard Bennett wrote: I think it's actually pretty easy to make the case that a circuit-switched protocol with a sliding

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-14 Thread Richard Bennett
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Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-14 Thread Richard Bennett
of a business that is paid to be an advocate for a specific point of view on the subject you are posting on. Most people would consider that this would be an interest that required disclosure. On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Richard Bennett rich...@bennett.com mailto:rich...@bennett.com wrote

Re: Time Shifting of Internet Traffic

2010-09-14 Thread Richard Bennett
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Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-13 Thread Richard Bennett
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Re: Latest Development in DiffServ Wars

2010-09-10 Thread Richard Bennett
.php On 9/10/2010 3:43 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: On Sep 9, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: There are two possibilities here: 1) The Press Release is accurate in its representation of the IETF No action is required 2) Someone on the Internet is wrong

Re: The Evils of Informational RFC's

2010-09-09 Thread Richard Bennett
That's probably because RFC 2549 was the transitional document. Richard Bennett On Sep 8, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Kevin Fall kf...@cs.berkeley.edu wrote: On Sep 8, 2010, at Sep 83:12 PMPDT, Richard Bennett wrote: It seems to me that one of the issues here is that architecture models

Latest Development in DiffServ Wars

2010-09-09 Thread Richard Bennett
me for policymakers in Washington D.C. to reject ATTs deceptive tactics, and instead to adopt common sense rules to protect consumers online." ### -- Richard Bennett Speaking on My Own Behalf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-08 Thread Richard Bennett
3:58 AM, Theodore Tso wrote: On Sep 7, 2010, at 10:30 PM, Richard Bennett wrote: I'm making a very simple request, Brian: I want a new press release to go out that corrects the one that most assuredly did go out last week. There are many things I'd want, starting with a $10 million dollars

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-08 Thread Richard Bennett
That's the point I've been trying to make. If you read the ATT letter in context, as a response to the Free Press letter that was completely bizarre, you'll conclude that the ATT letter was fundamentally accurate. So the decision by the ISOC press relations people and the ISOC policy people

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-08 Thread Richard Bennett
Interested parties will note that I've stopped responding to Mr. Hallam-Baker's trolls. This doesn't mean I agree with anything he says, obviously. I've made a request of Russ Housley and the IETF community on my own behalf. That's it. RB On 9/8/2010 3:02 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Bennett
e same, then that's where | the ugliness of this debate begins," Housley says. "The RFC doesn't | talk about that...If they put the same tags, they'd expect the same | service from the same provider." Clearly, if the two video sources have purchased different amounts of bandwidth, t

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Bennett
questions, Brian. RB On 9/7/2010 4:43 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Sigh. It's hard to resist tendentious messages. I have two questions for Mr Bennett. Q1. message from our public relations agency To whom or what does our refer in this phrase? Q2. Does your signature block: Richard Bennett Senior

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Bennett
Sorry, I don't have a link as I received it by email. If you doubt its veracity, I'm sure Russ can confirm, as he already has done for me personally. RB On 9/7/2010 5:05 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Sep 7, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Richard Bennett wrote: Russ says he believes the PR firm works

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Bennett
It's for Russ to say how widely the Internet Society's press release was disseminated; all I know is that one of the reporters who covered these remarks received it and the other didn't. RB On 9/7/2010 5:17 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Sep 7, 2010, at 8:08 PM, Richard Bennett wrote

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-07 Thread Richard Bennett
errors were made in a press release that went out under our collective names. They need to be corrected with a new, truthful press release which is public and on the record. RB   On 9/7/2010 7:03 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 2010-09-0

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-04 Thread Richard Bennett
It seems to me that Russ should have said something like this: IETF develops technical standards. Our DiffServ standard enables applications to communicate their requirements for specialized treatment to edge networks and for networks to aggregate packets requiring similar treatment at

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-04 Thread Richard Bennett
technical standards and not business models. - Jason ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf -- Richard Bennett Senior Research Fellow Information Technology and Innovation Foundation Washington, DC

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-03 Thread Richard Bennett
over traffic associated with applications without those demands, like email. The whole article is copied below, and it is online here: http://www.nationaljournal.com/njonline/tc_20100902_7144.php Russ -- Richard Bennett Senior Research Fellow Information Technology and Innovation Foundation

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-03 Thread Richard Bennett
and if you like, B.E. Carpenter and K. Nichols, Differentiated Services in the Internet, Proc. IEEE, 90 (9) (2002) 1479-1494. Brian On 2010-09-04 07:57, Richard Bennett wrote: DiffServ is a prioritization scheme, Brian, how can you say it's not? IntServ is a reservation scheme, and DiffServ

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-03 Thread Richard Bennett
zz0yV7O8Ofv On 9/3/2010 1:34 PM, Matthew Ford wrote: On 3 Sep 2010, at 21:13, Richard Bennett wrote: As Russ is now invoking your message to support his view that payment for premium service is contrary to the wishes of IETF, that's a problem

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-03 Thread Richard Bennett
out a press release clarifying the organization's position. If he was quoted correctly, there's a much larger problem. RB On 9/3/2010 1:40 PM, Richard Bennett wrote: This is what the press is saying: "The head of th

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-03 Thread Richard Bennett
fserv deals with multiple different queuing disiplines, which may or may not be priority based. Please read RFC 2475 and if you like, B.E. Carpenter and K. Nichols, Differentiated Services in the Internet, Proc. IEEE, 90 (9) (2002) 1479-1494. Brian On 2010-09-04 07:57, Richard Bennett wrote:

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-03 Thread Richard Bennett
Brian Carpenter On 2010-09-04 09:34, Richard Bennett wrote: Brian's paper on DiffServ confirms the fact that prioritization is part of the standard. Here are the two relevant quotes: In the original design of IP [33], a byte known as the “type of service (TOS) octet” was reserved in the header

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-03 Thread Richard Bennett
the bit at the beginning of each RFC that defines its status is something that we've been used to for many years. Regards Brian On 2010-09-04 10:36, Richard Bennett wrote: Let's go back to your original comment, the one that Russ has quoted elsewhere. You said: It has been consistently hard