Re: [IETF] back by popular demand - a DNS calculator

2013-02-20 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Carlos M. martinez carlosm3...@gmail.com wrote: Wasn't the 'evil bit' able to hold the value 2 ? Yes, but we need an RFC for that. From RFC 3514: 6. IANA Considerations This document defines the behavior of security elements for the 0x0 and 0x1 values of

Re: Discussion of BCP79 on the IPR-WG List

2013-01-19 Thread Steven Bellovin
It's not listed under the General area because the working group disbanded when its RFCs were finished. IETF working groups do not last forever; when their work is done, they're shut down. The last charter is at https://www.ietf.org/wg/concluded/ipr.html As for IETF management support -- Rob

Re: travel guide for the next IETF...

2012-12-29 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Dec 29, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote: Going Beyond Disney in Orlando Quick, name five reasons to go to Orlando. Here are mine: Puerto Rican delicacies, alternative cinema, craft beer, African-American history and psychic readings...

Re: English spoken here

2012-12-05 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Dec 4, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Keith Moore mo...@network-heretics.com wrote: On 12/04/2012 12:50 PM, Steven Bellovin wrote: I started making up really good slides (in a variety of settings) after noticing non-native-English speakers at the IETF taking pictures of the screen -- it *really

Re: English spoken here (was: PowerPoint considered harmful)

2012-12-04 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Dec 2, 2012, at 12:21 PM, John C Klensin john-i...@jck.com wrote: --On Sunday, December 02, 2012 08:35 -0800 SM s...@resistor.net wrote: It is not about different dialects of English. There are people in one part of the world who speak English. There are people from other parts

Re: mailing list memberships reminder - passwords in the clear

2012-11-03 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Nov 2, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Paul Aitken pait...@cisco.com wrote: John, Why does the mailing list memberships reminder send passwords in the clear? Because that's what Mailman does. Send code. And that's acceptable to the IETF? You're kidding me, right? Because the security is

Re: Steven Bellovin appointed FTC CTO

2012-09-11 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker hal...@gmail.com wrote: Some happy news about an IETF-er for a change: http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/ftcs-new-chief-technologist-deterrence-isnt-perfect.php?ref=fpb Congrats Steve. Thanks! Yes, for the next year I'll

Re: ITU-T Dubai Meeting

2012-08-05 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Aug 5, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Randy Bush wrote: In other words: I expect that it will be not more than 20 years from now that we will hear cries of Why were we so wasteful with IPv6 addresses in the beginning? This is why I disagree with Phillip Hallam-Baker's opinion. aol whatever the

Re: ITU-T Dubai Meeting

2012-08-02 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Aug 2, 2012, at 1:24 PM, David Conrad wrote: On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:44 AM, j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) wrote: we should instead focus on the ways that the technical architecture of the Internet creates control points that are vulnerable to capture and consider ways in which

Re: ITU-T Dubai Meeting

2012-08-02 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Aug 2, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Doug Barton wrote: The whole concept of a global network, with no centralized control, that permits (nay, encourages) the free flow of information is anathema to many national governments. They are desperate to choke that off, by any means necessary. From

Re: [IAB] Draft Fees for Processing Legal Requests Policy

2012-08-02 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Ralph Droms wrote: On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:07 AM 8/2/12, Eggert, Lars wrote: Looks good to me, but I agree with whoever suggested to increase the fees. I think you could easily double or triple them. I agree with Lars and the suggestion that the fees could be

Re: I-D Action: draft-balaji-mpls-lawful-intercept-thru-label-dis-00.txt

2012-07-31 Thread Steven Bellovin
Also note that RFC 3924 exists. On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:14 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Loa, I can't speak for Scott, but I think the problem arises if any IANA assignments are needed, regardless of RFC status. That's because RFC 2804 speaks of the process for creating and maintaining IETF

Re: RFC and I-D Citation Tool

2012-07-31 Thread Steven Bellovin
There are a number of very weird entries that require special handling. I (also) wrote a Python script to convert the XML file to bibtex and had to deal with a number of these special cases. For example, RFC 4534 lists the authors as A Colegrove, H Harney instead of A. Colegrove, H. Harney.

Re: New Non-WG Mailing List: IETF-822

2012-06-15 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Jun 15, 2012, at 5:24 48AM, Harald Alvestrand wrote: On 06/15/2012 08:46 AM, Yoav Nir wrote: On Jun 15, 2012, at 12:44 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 6/14/12 3:37 PM, IETF Secretariat wrote: List address: ietf-...@ietf.org Is no one thinking ahead to the 822nd meeting of the IETF in

Re: Variable length internet addresses in TCP/IP: history

2012-02-16 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Feb 16, 2012, at 8:30 39PM, Masataka Ohta wrote: Steven Bellovin wrote: Thus, IPv6 was mortally wounded from the beginning. The history is vastly more complex than that. However, this particular decision was just about the last one the IPng directorate made before reporting back

Re: Variable length internet addresses in TCP/IP: history

2012-02-15 Thread Steven Bellovin
Scott, if memory serves you and I wanted the high-order 2 bits of the IPng address to select between 64, 128, 192, and 256-bit addresses -- and when we couldn't get that we got folks to agree on 128-bit addresses instead of 64-bit, which is what had been on the table. On Feb 14, 2012, at 1:37

Re: Variable length internet addresses in TCP/IP: history

2012-02-15 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Feb 15, 2012, at 5:44 53PM, Ross Callon wrote: But the maximum for implementation is not necessarily the maximum for the packet format. Thus one could have started with a variable length address format, but said For the immediate future we will always pick a length of 32 bits. Then

Re: Variable length internet addresses in TCP/IP: history

2012-02-15 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Feb 15, 2012, at 7:43 30PM, Masataka Ohta wrote: Steven Bellovin wrote: Scott, if memory serves you and I wanted the high-order 2 bits of the IPng address to select between 64, 128, 192, and 256-bit addresses -- and when we couldn't get that we got folks to agree on 128-bit addresses

Re: ITC copped out on UTC again

2012-02-08 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Feb 7, 2012, at 2:12 59PM, John C Klensin wrote: --On Tuesday, February 07, 2012 10:45 -0800 james woodyatt j...@apple.com wrote: ... TAI has a fairly stable foundation in non-relativistic physics, which experience has shown to be somewhat resistant to the power of political

Re: Second Last Call: draft-ietf-sieve-notify-sip-message-08.txt (Sieve Notification Mechanism: SIP MESSAGE) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-26 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Jan 26, 2012, at 9:26 41PM, Ted Hardie wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org wrote: I am not a lawyer, but I don't think the license terms are at issue here. As I understand it, the terms that Huawei has been specifying in its disclosures are

Re: Story: Next battle over Net ramps up worldwide

2012-01-19 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Jan 19, 2012, at 11:54 35AM, John C Klensin wrote: --On Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:04 -0500 Noel Chiappa j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu wrote: For those who haven't seen it, here: Next battle over Net ramps up worldwide http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71625.html is an

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-19.txt (The RPKI/RouterProtocol) to Proposed Standard

2011-12-23 Thread Steven Bellovin
Let me clarify what I said (and include context that I should have put in my earlier note). Security mechanisms are not designed in a vacuum. One has to consider the users, the threats, and the usage scenarios. To take an absurd example, while I can do Caesar ciphers in my head I'm quite

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-19.txt (The RPKI/RouterProtocol) to Proposed Standard

2011-12-22 Thread Steven Bellovin
Let me call attention to this sentence, too: It also SHOULD be topologically close so that a minimum of validated routing data are needed to bootstrap a router's access to a cache. That is, there are other, quite important, reasons to keep the cache very close to the router(s) it

Re: IETF to Meet in Toronto!

2011-11-29 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Nov 29, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 03:53:14PM +, Dave Cridland wrote: Welcome to Toronto - ranked 7th most popular place in North America amongst a non-representative self-selecting group of technical people. Obviously, not enough Canadians

Re: Plagued by PPTX again

2011-11-21 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Nov 21, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Douglas Otis wrote: On 11/17/11 4:14 PM, Randy Bush wrote: PDF/a is something browsers and natively by different OSs that can directly display. When submitting formats that are not PDF/a, convert and automatically link to the converted output with a prompt

Re: one data point regarding native IPv6 support

2011-06-13 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:24 40PM, Ofer Inbar wrote: I've never been able to get first level tech support at my ISP to understand latency or packet loss. They only understand can you load a web page? This does not mean their ISP doesn't provide packet loss and latency, standard with their

Re: How to pay $47 for a copy of RFC 793

2011-05-12 Thread Steven Bellovin
On May 12, 2011, at 10:41 58AM, John C Klensin wrote: --On Wednesday, May 11, 2011 16:43 -0400 Steven Bellovin s...@cs.columbia.edu wrote: It is a lot more time (and money) saving to search free versions before entering transactions to purchase them than to rely blindly on PubMed, IEEE

Re: How to pay $47 for a copy of RFC 793

2011-05-11 Thread Steven Bellovin
On May 10, 2011, at 5:22 43PM, Masataka Ohta wrote: Bob Braden wrote: I wonder how many other IEEE standards contain similar RFC-for-pay references.. It's common (much more than 50% for academic ones, IMHO) that sold articles are freely available on-line. For example, a PDF file of

Re: How to pay $47 for a copy of RFC 793

2011-05-08 Thread Steven Bellovin
On May 8, 2011, at 7:44 58PM, John Levine wrote: Today if you're an IEEE type, and you wonder where to find RFC 793, or you're wondering what RFC 793 is about, and you look it up in IEEE Xplore, the online library that all electrical engineers use, and that their employers have site

Re: Question about Prague

2011-01-02 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Jan 1, 2011, at 9:01 20AM, Mans Nilsson wrote: Subject: Re: Question about Prague Date: Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 03:30:07PM -0500 Quoting Scott Brim (scott.b...@gmail.com): On 12/31/2010 13:37 EST, Elwyn Davies wrote: Driving into the Czech Republic shouldn't be a problem BUT you do have to

Re: [ietf] DNS spoofing at captive portals

2010-09-24 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Sep 24, 2010, at 5:17 19PM, John Levine wrote: IANAL but would think that such practice should expose the operator of the server or proxy to civil and/or criminal action, both from the operators of the zones whose RRs are being misrepresented, and from the users' whose applications are

Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-05-10 Thread Steven Bellovin
On May 10, 2010, at 5:05 52AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 10 mei 2010, at 5:01, ty...@mit.edu wrote: I talked to a cab driver in Boston, and he's not very happy with credit cards, because he was forced to use a new system for credit cards, and it takes what he considered an unfairly

Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht (morphed to cabbies and credit cards)

2010-05-10 Thread Steven Bellovin
On May 10, 2010, at 11:54 52AM, Bob Braden wrote: Is there no bottom to this particular rat hole? Enough, already! We first have to discuss if the credit cards have to be in ASCII vs. HTML or PDF. --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

Re: Publishing call for discussion?

2010-04-18 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Apr 18, 2010, at 1:31 59PM, Martin Sustrik wrote: Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: On 04/18/2010 06:58 PM, Martin Sustrik wrote: Is there a standard way to publish a call for discussion memo? Yes, an internet-draft, perhaps containg prose such as this draft is intended to initiate discussion. At

Re: Above market hotel room rates

2010-03-26 Thread Steven Bellovin
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/03/25/science/AP-US-NASA-Pricey-Snacks.html ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: [Emu] Bar Bof on Federated Authentication Thursday at 9 PM during IETF week

2010-03-10 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Dave Nelson wrote: Sent from my iPhone, wherein trimming posts is a challenge. :-) On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Glen Zorn g...@net-zen.net wrote: Suddenly I'm nostalgic for the days when bar BOFs were impromptu affairs that sprang up in, well, _bars_ were of

Re: Most bogus news story of the week

2009-12-19 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Dec 18, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Dec 18, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Sam Hartman wrote: Richard == Richard L Barnes rbar...@bbn.com writes: Richard Here's (what the ITU claims is) the specific proposal that Richard has been made to the ITU: An

Re: Most bogus news story of the week

2009-12-18 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Dec 18, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: (except it's not a joke) Chinese proposal to meter Internet traffic http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8417680.stm China wants to meter all internet traffic that passes through its borders, it has emerged. The move

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-14 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Dec 14, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Loa Andersson wrote: All, Hi - From: Richard L. Barnes rbar...@bbn.com To: IETF Member Dave Aronson ietf2d...@davearonson.com Cc: IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF

Re: IETF 79 Announcement

2009-11-09 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Nov 9, 2009, at 2:24 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: The IAOC is pleased to announce the ancient and historic city of Beijing as the site for IETF 79 from 7 - 10 November 2010. Nov 7-10? Sunday-Wednesday? That's unusually short for an IETF meeting. --Steve Bellovin,

Re: Last Call: draft-gennai-smime-cnipa-pec (Certified Electronic Mail) to Proposed Standard

2009-10-14 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Oct 14, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Simon Josefsson wrote: The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org writes: - 'Certified Electronic Mail ' draft-gennai-smime-cnipa-pec-05.txt as a Proposed Standard This documents appears to utilize several e-mail header fields: X-Ricevuta X-Riferimento-Message-ID