Re: [v6ops] Last Call: (Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Profile for 3GPP Mobile Devices) to Informational RFC

2013-08-20 Thread james woodyatt
views on the technical merits of this draft remain unchanged from the last time I offered them here, and I am basically in agreement with Lorenzo. This draft seems unnecessary to me. -- james woodyatt core os networking

Re: Last Call: (IANA Reserved IPv4 Prefix for Shared Address Space) to BCP

2012-02-16 Thread james woodyatt
* products that support a 6to4 tunnel router feature, that too is unlikely ever to happen. (Note well: we don't comment publicly about the features of unreleased products.) Shorter james: this draft is a bad idea; please don't publish it. -- james woodyatt member of technical staf

Re: ITC copped out on UTC again

2012-02-09 Thread james woodyatt
quot;somewhat resistant" not "impervious" didn't I? [I'm not going to recount any of the stories I know about various famous technology sector executives and their unhappy encounters with the laws of physics.] -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, core os ne

Re: ITC copped out on UTC again

2012-02-07 Thread james woodyatt
ugh for most running code on the Internet. Shorter james: +1 for switching to TAI. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, core os networking ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: Consensus Call: draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request

2011-12-02 Thread james woodyatt
On Dec 2, 2011, at 13:15 , Victor Kuarsingh wrote: > > […] I would like to point out that PMT has worked in a large production > network with much success (as ugly as one may think it is). The reality is > that it works, and works well […] In order to retain a semblance of professional composu

Re: Consensus Call: draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request

2011-12-02 Thread james woodyatt
On Nov 28, 2011, at 13:25 , Ronald Bonica wrote: > […] I will submit the draft to the full IESG for its consideration at its > December 1 teleconference. The draft will be published as a BCP if a > sufficient number of IESG members ballot "Yes" or "No Objection", and if no > IESG member ballots

Re: IPv6 traffic distribution

2011-07-27 Thread james woodyatt
Add a line to /etc/sysctl.conf. Done. No more 6to4 for you. Anywhere. Let me know if that changes anything noticeably to the better for you. (On the plus side, it should spare you from suffering any indignity at the hands of a 6to4-PMT service.) --

Re: [v6ops] 6to4v2 (as in ripv2)?

2011-07-27 Thread james woodyatt
ir warning before the relays go dark and forthcoming hardware/software upgrades rip the feature out from under them. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, core os networking ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic (yet again)

2011-07-26 Thread james woodyatt
endently able to do so. "Start the engines of destruction." -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, core os networking ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: Another look at 6to4 (and other IPv6 transition issues)

2011-07-18 Thread james woodyatt
not just sign up for a standard phase-out plan? Don't we want 6to4 users to have any advanced notice that we plan to break their Internet? Or, is the idea that we don't believe we can achieve a tactical victory over 6to4 users unless we mount a surprise attack on them? -- james

Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic

2011-07-06 Thread james woodyatt
ch prefer Keith Moore's proposal to reclassify RFC 3056 and RFC 3068 as Experimental. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, core os networking ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: HOMENET working group proposal

2011-06-30 Thread james woodyatt
do that without any provocation at all. There is nothing about NAT or dynamic subscriber IP assignment that provides any mitigation whatsoever of the risks entailed by living in a regime like that. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, core os networking _

Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal

2011-06-30 Thread james woodyatt
e home theater system today that nobody wants to cut off from the Internet just yet. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, core os networking ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: Why ask for IETF Consensus on a WG document?

2011-06-24 Thread james woodyatt
ubiquitous and kept in support forever. Because it works for some people with legacy gear and they don't want to change. Thanks ever so much, IESG! -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, core os networking ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ie

Re: Why ask for IETF Consensus on a WG document?

2011-06-24 Thread james woodyatt
at didn't happen. Oh well. I do, however, wonder if we can finally remove 2002::/16 from the default policy table in the next revision of RFC 3484 on the grounds that 6to4 is Historic now, just like 3ffe::/16 is... that would be *excellent*. --

Re: [v6ops] Last Call: (Request to move Connection of IPv6 Domains via IPv4 Clouds (6to4) to Historic status) to Informational RFC

2011-06-14 Thread james woodyatt
ourse, because Google doesn't run its own 6to4 return-path relay as I-D.ietf-v6ops-6to4-advisory recommends. The way to find these people is to crawl the BitTorrent networks. What's that old maxim? "You can't test what you don't measure." Do you measure the

Re: one data point regarding native IPv6 support

2011-06-10 Thread james woodyatt
more precision and clarity than I-D.ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic does. In fact, I-D.ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic makes a more aggressive point on the first item, and sends, at best, a very mixed message about the second. -- james woodyatt member of technica

Re: [v6ops] Last Call:

2011-06-10 Thread james woodyatt
ar recommendation is inconsistent with the consensus in IETF that a phase-out plan for 6to4 is unwarranted. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, core os networking ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: one data point regarding native IPv6 support

2011-06-10 Thread james woodyatt
On Jun 9, 2011, at 18:47 , Masataka Ohta wrote: > james woodyatt wrote: >> >> I need *native* IPv6 into my home in San Francisco for my day job, > > Really? Very very very few people have day jobs that require native IPv6 service to their home network today. I'm an

Re: [v6ops] Last Call: (Request to move Connection of IPv6 Domains via IPv4 Clouds (6to4) to Historic status) to Informational RFC

2011-06-10 Thread james woodyatt
ose links, Mac OS X 10.6.4 and earlier will treat 6to4 prefixes equivalently to any other IPv6 prefix when making address selection decisions. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, core os networking ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://w

Re: one data point regarding native IPv6 support

2011-06-09 Thread james woodyatt
they are complying with I-D.ietf-v6ops-6to4-advisory now. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, core os networking ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: [v6ops] Last Call: (Request to move Connection of IPv6 Domains via IPv4 Clouds (6to4) to Historic status) to Informational RFC

2011-06-09 Thread james woodyatt
e industry. We're smart enough to recognize that we're not the target audience for the RFC. The draft that matters is the companion advisory draft. It would be nice if the 6to4-to-historic draft could be spiked so as not to distract from its companion, but I don't see th

Re: [v6ops] Last Call: (Request to move Connection of IPv6 Domains via IPv4 Clouds (6to4) to Historic status) to Informational RFC

2011-06-08 Thread james woodyatt
ore useful ends than defending it. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, core os networking ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: [v6ops] Last Call:

2011-06-08 Thread james woodyatt
't want to set an > unfortunate precedent. I see no reason for IETF to avoid setting standards for layer-9 protocols. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, core os networking ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: [v6ops] Review of: draft-ietf-v6ops-v6-aaaa-whitelisting-implications-03

2011-05-03 Thread james woodyatt
f "DNS enclaves" for serving resources rather than serving them to the public DNS horizon. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, core os networking ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: [Full-disclosure] IPv6 security myths

2010-10-26 Thread james woodyatt
6/NAPT functions, e.g. to provide IPv6 address amplification. There are probably other ways-- *better* ways-- but that's the historically proven way of doing it. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, communications engineering __

can we please postpone the ipv6 post-mortem?

2010-10-08 Thread james woodyatt
we made in bringing IPv6 up-- while there are, today, more people than ever before taking what are perceived to be enormous risks actually making the v4->v6 transition start to happen? -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, communications engineering

Re: Last Call:

2010-09-21 Thread james woodyatt
nable, demands of two competing product managers, each with their own existential crises officially assigned as my drop-everything ship-or-die top priority. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, communications engineering ___ Ietf mailing list Ie

another document categorization suggestion

2010-04-21 Thread james woodyatt
merely Experimental nature... BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED that IETF should create a new document category for Disinformation, and that RFC 2516 should immediately and with extreme prejudice be reclassified as such without further discussion. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, communications

Re: Last Call: draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns (Multicast DNS) to Informational RFC

2009-11-25 Thread james woodyatt
important document. It should have been published years go, fergawdzakes. Faster, please. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, communications engineering ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: IETF languages, was: something about RFCs

2009-07-09 Thread james woodyatt
le to rule that discussion out of scope while we get on with talking about archival formats: there is no reason to believe that expanding our archival formats would further limit our future options for adopting new working languages. (I'm thinking centuries into the future here.) --

Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required

2009-07-09 Thread james woodyatt
s of their choice, unless they are open-source" fits into this picture. Compared to the previous two issues, this one is just not so much important. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, communications engineering ___ Ietf ma

Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required

2009-07-06 Thread james woodyatt
among unpublishable wankers. (Being an unpublishable wanker myself still, I'm speaking from experience *and* close observation of my peers.) Shorter james: I'll need to be convinced that perception is fair before I can join in the pillorying of our I-D submissions system main

Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required

2009-06-30 Thread james woodyatt
ill mean unleashing a yet another force-ten maelstrom of controversy that I'd prefer to observe from a very, very safe distance, i.e. one measured in parsecs. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, communications engineering ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required

2009-06-29 Thread james woodyatt
on about that. This message is about editorial process.) -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, communications engineering ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: I-D Action:draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-01.txt

2009-06-09 Thread james woodyatt
nstructive feedback IETF participants can provide, and I can assure everyone here that nobody at Apple feels their employment status entitles them to any special consideration for their individual contributions. -- james woodyatt member of technical staff, communications e

Re: [BEHAVE] Lack of need for 66nat : Long term impact to application developers

2008-11-26 Thread james woodyatt
iple global address realms. Do the proponents of NAT66 have any proposals for extending DNS appropriately to support the architecture that NAT66 implies? Do we really want to open the can of worms that multiple global DNS horizons represents? I should hope not. -- james woodyatt <[EMAIL

Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria?

2008-11-19 Thread james woodyatt
their timely visa application to U.S. authorities? If so, then that might be something worth investigating. -- james woodyatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> member of technical staff, communications engineering ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

Re: The IETF Mission

2004-02-04 Thread james woodyatt
On 04 Feb 2004, at 20:59, james woodyatt wrote: On 04 Feb 2004, at 12:49, Dean Anderson wrote: To provide a fair and open process whereby any party that believes it has been treated unfairly has the right to appeal. I'd prefer this: To use a fair and open process, even i

Re: The IETF Mission

2004-02-04 Thread james woodyatt
On 04 Feb 2004, at 12:49, Dean Anderson wrote: To provide a fair and open process whereby any party that believes it has been treated unfairly has the right to appeal. I'd prefer this: To use a fair and open process, even in the resolution of disputes, in which any person

Re: NAT box spec? (RE: myth of the great transition)

2003-06-19 Thread james woodyatt
On Wednesday, Jun 18, 2003, at 12:51 US/Pacific, Keith Moore wrote: [I wrote:] When customers of retail Internet service start demanding a NAT standard, then that's when the IETF might want to think about documenting the standard that the market seems to want. here's the only thing that a NAT stand

Re: NAT box spec? (RE: myth of the great transition)

2003-06-18 Thread james woodyatt
On Tuesday, Jun 17, 2003, at 22:55 US/Pacific, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: at the risk of feeding into a long-burning flamewar: when you say "a decent NAT box spec", what do you think of? Now, you've done it. As far as I can tell, a NAT box contains, over and above what it does because it's a

Re: Engineering to deal with the social problem of spam

2003-06-10 Thread james woodyatt
On Tuesday, Jun 10, 2003, at 22:12 US/Pacific, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] There's a *large* number of people still in the 386 world, who are financially unable to upgrade. That same hashcash request that will not inconvenience my hardware will probably kill their box for the better part of an

Re: Engineering to deal with the social problem of spam

2003-06-10 Thread james woodyatt
everyone-- Here's a silly idea: let's try adding an option for hashcash to APEX. (Or has someone already done that?) If the problem with hashcash is that worms can steal CPU cycles to generate hashcash, then let's attack the problem of worms separately from the problem of spam suppression. I

RFC 3271 and Internet abuse

2002-04-30 Thread james woodyatt
friends-- As a statement of ideology, I generally like RFC 3271. However, I *do* have a criticism to contribute... (I know. I should have known about the draft and contributed my comments sooner.) Vinton Cerf writes in RFC 3271: > >Internet is for everyone - but it won't be if we are not

Re: How many standards or protocols...

2002-04-18 Thread james woodyatt
todd, and fellow ietf participants-- I don't want to eat too much bandwidth on the IETF Discussion list, so this followup will be my last contribution on the subject. I considered not posting anything at all, but I feel motivated to clarify my views. On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 09:02 PM,

Re: How many standards or protocols...

2002-04-16 Thread james woodyatt
On Monday, April 15, 2002, at 10:34 PM, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: > [...] I'd like to hear the IETF community's input on the topic. [...] This is a matter of politics, philosophy and economics (PPE). Asking engineers to comment on such things is nice-- we're so often left out of such disc

Re: draft-iab-unsaf-considerations-01.txt

2002-04-05 Thread james woodyatt
On Friday, April 5, 2002, at 03:25 PM, james woodyatt wrote: > > Another thing that springs to mind: the IAB should probably encourage-- > in no uncertain terms-- that any UNSAF process specified for use with > IPv4 NAT should also be specified for use with RFC 2766 "N

Re: draft-iab-unsaf-considerations-01.txt

2002-04-05 Thread james woodyatt
On Thursday, April 4, 2002, at 05:53 PM, Keith Moore wrote: > [I wrote:] >> [...] >> I don't see how the presence of NA[P]T in a firewall substantially >> alters these requirements. > > [...] > but I think the IAB were trying to say that it's important to make > sure that measures used to circumve

Re: draft-iab-unsaf-considerations-01.txt

2002-04-05 Thread james woodyatt
On Friday, April 5, 2002, at 01:49 PM, Bill Strahm wrote: > > [...] I believe AOL for one does this and it wouldn't surprise me if > most of the large cable providers do something silly like this at the > low end (You can always pay more for a real IP address) I have also received several repor

Re: draft-iab-unsaf-considerations-01.txt

2002-04-05 Thread james woodyatt
On Friday, April 5, 2002, at 08:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [I wrote:] >>Also, I think it would be helpful to know how commonly twice-NAT is >>deployed, but I don't have any data there. > > I believe (at least) twice-NAT is fairly common. I have a NATting router > between by cable ac

draft-iab-unsaf-considerations-01.txt

2002-04-04 Thread james woodyatt
friends-- I have some commentary to offer on draft-iab-unsaf- considerations-01.txt, i.e. "IAB Considerations for UNilateral Self-Address Fixing (UNSAF)" which comes from my experience developing a consumer network appliance that combines the functions of an 802.11b access point with a NAT rou

S. 2048, CBDTPA (was: It's war, folks --- SSSCA formally introduced)

2002-03-25 Thread james woodyatt
everyone-- Come on, folks. It's time to get our oop in a group. Read section 3. The text of S. 2048 is here: http://www.politechbot.com/docs/cbdtpa/hollings.s2048.032102.html If the CBDTPA passes (not terribly likely, but the possibility exists), then the FCC (the U.S. regulatory co

Re: Netmeeting - NAT issue

2002-03-21 Thread james woodyatt
On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 06:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Of course, there is the possibility that if they were totally honest, > and marketed their devices as "Enabling appliances for selected Internet > services" that they'd STILL make money (and then you'd have no one to > blame). P

IPv6 (was: NetMeeting - NAT issue)

2002-03-20 Thread james woodyatt
On Tuesday, March 19, 2002, at 07:17 PM, Keith Moore wrote: > > [...] The reason I'm upset about NATs is that they make it difficult to > build distributed and peer-to-peer apps, and they encourage a model > where the net is centrally controlled (not by a single center, but > by a relatively small

Re: Netmeeting - NAT issue

2002-03-19 Thread james woodyatt
On Tuesday, March 19, 2002, at 01:10 PM, Keith Moore wrote: > [I wrote:] >> The first thing I would suggest is to sit back and contemplate whether >> the situation bears any resemblance to other problems in which the user >> population engages in behavior that results in short-term personal >> ben

Re: Netmeeting - NAT issue

2002-03-19 Thread james woodyatt
everyone-- I know this is a frequent source of heated discussion, and that much has already been said that doesn't need to be repeated here, but I *just* *can't* *let* *this* *go* unchallenged. - On Tuesday, March 19, 2002, at 08:26 AM, Keith Moore wrote: > [...] > in a just world, the NA

Re: Guidance for spam-control on IETF mailing lists

2002-03-16 Thread james woodyatt
On Friday, March 15, 2002, at 09:53 AM, Keith Moore wrote: > > I dunno. I've received several complaints from people who've received > spam with my address in the From field. I don't know if I'm being > singled out by a spammer [...] You are not. I've seen this tactic used by spammers to circu