There have been fairly intense discussions in a series of meetings called PrepComs
as in preparatory committees leading up to the World Summit on the Information
Society (WSIS) taking place December 10-12 in Geneva. In the most recent meetings, a
government only rule was invoked that excluded
Noel:
1. The Salt Lake Tribune: U.S. Net dominance questioned
http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Dec/12082003/business/118003.asp
2. The Register: Internet showdown side-stepped in Geneva
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/34394.html
3. CNN Money: A potentially tangled Web?
at the moment it is not well constituted to develop policy.
v
At 01:01 PM 12/9/2003 +1200, Franck Martin wrote:
Hmmm,
What is wrong with ISOC?
Cannot it be this body, we are looking for?
Vint Cerf
SVP Technology Strategy
MCI
22001 Loudoun County Parkway, F2-4115
Ashburn, VA 20147
703 886 1690
I don't know what jefsey means by IP zones
Louis and I met in 1973 and his datagram ideas, sliding window ideas for flow control,
influenced my thinking about TCP. Gerard LeLann, who worked in Louis Pouzin's group at
IRIA came to Stanford in 1974 to work on the TCP and Internet. IEN 48 refers
karl, ICANN has responsibility to do what it can to make sure the DNS and ICANN root
system work. It does not have to disenfranchise the RIRs and the root servers to do
this.
vint
At 12:02 AM 12/1/2003 -0800, Karl Auerbach wrote:
Verisign will wave the flag of bias and ask ICANN to
karl, we raised the question of anycast risk with SECSAC in response to your
concerns and the conclusion was that the risks had not materialized in the
operation of anycast in roots that had already deployed it.
There are lots of ways in which routing can be wedged - until we get some
form of
At 05:49 PM 11/29/2003 +, Paul Robinson wrote:
John C Klensin wrote:
With regard to ICANN and its processes, I don't much like the
way a good deal of that has turned out, even while I believe
that things are gradually getting better. I lament the set of
decisions that led to the US Govt
At 03:39 PM 11/29/2003 -0800, Karl Auerbach wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, vinton g. cerf wrote:
I strongly object to your characterization of ICANN as abandoning
the operation of roots and IP address allocation. These matters have
been the subject of discussion for some time.
I can't seem
Valdis,
I think your example underscores the difference between localization
of an interface to make use of local language/script and globalization
that permits interworking among all parties, independent of their local
language and script.
the confusion between these two (familiar user
if you do that, I hope you will edit to manageable and understandable proportions...
:-/
v
At 10:50 PM 9/24/2003 +1000, Laird, James wrote:
Maybe we should put together a summary of the discussion and send it to
ICANN?
Vint Cerf
SVP Technology Strategy
MCI
22001 Loudoun County Parkway, F2-4115
I am a strong proponent of trying to find a way to create a new set of end identifiers
that would be insensitive to the changing of IP level addresses. It seems to me that
we would find ourselves working pretty hard to tease apart the current strong binding
of IP and TCP (pseudoheaders etc) but
At 04:24 AM 9/8/2003 +0800, Shelby Moore wrote:
At 11:51 AM 9/7/2003 +0800, you wrote:
You can get mail no matter where you are with a POP account also.
shelby, that's actually not true. If you have an enterprise email service
that requires access to a VPN and the internet service you access it
At 08:41 AM 9/2/2003 -0700, Dave Crocker wrote:
Vint,
vgc If you look at the instant messaging systems, they map a private
vgc identifier space (IM name or handle) into IP addresses and
vgc apparently run background heartbeat to re-assign the mapping if the
vgc identifier in the heartbeat arrives
keith,
SIP may have been initially motivated by telephony style applications but it is a very
general and extensible negotiation protocol - it was that aspect that grabbed my
attention when I first heard about Schulzrinne's work on it several years ago. I think
the point really is that SIP is
As a prospective supplier of SIP-based services, I am very interested in seeing
SIP-based definitions for the support of a wide range of conferencing tools ranging
from voice/video to IM and mixtures that might include a participant with only a phone
and a fax machine. This is not to say that I
I would be interested to know whether Alcatel really believes that DNS behaves in such
a way that one MUST delegate at each dot - as far as I know, it is NOT required to
do so.
vint
At 04:01 PM 6/22/2003 -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
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Alcatel.com does not
this is NOT an ICANN problem - ICANN has no jurisdiction at the email
level.
vint cerf
chairman, ICANN
At 12:27 AM 6/8/2003 +0200, Marc Schneiders wrote:
Spam costs nothing. Spam comes from all corners of the world, where
the Dutch police doesn't dare to go. And even if they would the Dutch
Tony,
bless you for your thoughtful concern - please keep me posted - I am
scheduled to be in Singapore in early April.
vint
At 08:42 PM 3/18/2003 -0800, Tony Hain wrote:
In the interest of full disclosure I want to let you all know that this
evening I developed a deep chest cough. This
that would have to be a decision of PIR and its board - ISOC does not,
at least as I understand it, have any direct access to the .org
revenues. ISOC does select the PIR board but otherwise there is no
financial connection.
Vint
At 12:08 PM 3/15/2003 -0800, Rick Wesson wrote:
Harald,
The
the reason for copyrighting the standards produced by IETF is precisely
to simultaneously allow IETF to derive new standards documents from the
older ones and to have the ability to prohibit others from doing so without
specific authorization.
Vint
At 09:15 AM 1/24/2003 -0500, Scott Bradner
catanet was a term invented by Louis Pouzin, a French researcher responsible for the
design and construction of the Cyclades system that included the Cigale pure datagram
network. The term appeared in Internet Experiment Note #48 but as I recall was not
used thereafter, when the term Internet
My first recollection of the documented use of the term Internet was in RFC 675 the
specification of the Internet Transmission Control Protocol.
ARPA called the project Internetting starting in 1973, I believe.
Bob Kahn you know that point for sure.
vint
At 02:59 AM 1/15/2003 +0100, J-F C.
yes, duh.
v
At 12:16 PM 12/21/2002 +, Peter KIRSTEIN wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
myou write:
bob is correct; I left ARPA in Oct 1972 to join MCI.
vint
You mean 1982.
Vint Cerf
SVP Architecture Technology
WorldCom
22001 Loudoun County Parkway, F2-4115
Ashburn, VA 20147
703 886
bob is correct; I left ARPA in Oct 1972 to join MCI.
vint
At 07:49 PM 12/20/2002 +, Bob Braden wrote:
In my recent message about the creation of the Internet by the
conversion of the ARPAnet from NCP to TCP/IP, I incorrectly named Vint
Cerf as the Responsible Parent at ARPA. Actually, the
do not confuse effort for progress
vint cerf
At 08:33 AM 12/19/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Hi,
Is it just me, or have RFC's been popping out lately like mushrooms in an
autumn?
Something seems to be working.. :-)
Vint Cerf
SVP Architecture Technology
WorldCom
22001 Loudoun County Parkway,
where are these statistics from - I cannot believe that more than a few
percent of the net uses non-USG root.
Vint
At 09:10 AM 11/23/2002 -0500, Joe Baptista wrote:
The root servers struck by the attack assist computers in translating
Internet domain names, such as www.circleid.com, to numeric
joe, this makes no sense to me - the cacheing mechanisms are essentially
doing what you suggest. That's one of the reasons the system is resilient.
But you need to invalidate the cache to deal with changes to the binding
of domain name and IP address. Simply mirroring everything doesn't improve
Louis Touton is Vice President and General Counsel of ICANN.
ICANN has had a root server advisory committee from early days, working
on root server placement to improve resilience; the security and
stability advisory committee was created in the wake of 9/11 and
has increased the priority of root
Louis Pouzin at INRIA coined the term datagram for use in his CIGALE/CYCLADES network
around 1974.
vint
At 07:17 PM 9/23/2002 -0700, Dave Crocker wrote:
At 06:46 PM 9/23/2002 -0700, Fred Baker wrote:
A packet is a unit of data carried in a packet network,
this just moves the question over
Jean-Noel is the senior advisor on Information Technology
to the Prime Minister of France.
vint
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:36:13 +0200
From: TRONC JEAN-NOEL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: TR: with you in this terrible moment.
To: vint cerf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Importance: high
Priority: Urgent
I hope I will be forgiven for adding another message to this
long thread.
1. we have to discuss the practical problems of deploying IPv6 and especially
a bunch of corner cases or it won't work.
2. there are still a lot of "holes" in my opinion that need filling in any
credible deployment
the commission is not responsible for the assignment of IP address space
is it???
vint
At 02:53 PM 8/11/2000 -0700, Greg Skinner wrote:
Brian E Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If a routeable prefix was given to every human, using a predicted
world population of 11 billion, we would
folks,
our current plan is NOT to try to extend a single address space
across the solar system. We plan to confine address spaces to
planets, satellites, space vehicles and the backbone Internet -
but each address space is independent. We plan to use something
akin to the domain name system for
see www.ipnsig.org
vint
At 09:46 PM 8/3/2000 -0400, Philip J. Nesser II wrote:
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There is already a lot of work being done on the Interplanetary
Internet problem. Vint Cerf has lead pioneering work with people at
JPL on the problem. I don't
Dennis
thanks for drawing attention to this question. One of the reasons
for fees, of course, is that the Address Registries also have responsibility
to support ICANN so they have some new costs in addition to their operating
costs (or if you like, their operating costs include support for
Greg,
I am a strong proponent of developing and implementing accessibility
guidelines. The ICANN election has simply overwhelmed the available
resources - but I think the follow-on study absolutely should take into
account accessibility concerns.
vint
At 08:02 AM 7/31/2000 -0700, Greg Skinner
and I replied:
Ronda,
have you taken time to look into the numbers of people trying to
register? do you know what the planning estimates were before
registration campaigns were initiated by various organizations?
The planning numbers for registration were on the order of 10,000
people. As of a
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 21:16:47 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Defining "Internet" (or "internet")
To: "vinton g. cerf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Lotus-FromDomain: 3COM
Original-recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for decip
ooops, sorry, I guess it was Paul that uncovered my retirement scheme.
v
At 10:10 AM 5/8/2000 +0100, Paul Robinson wrote:
No! We don't want to fix the holes! We want to keep a record of them
without telling the admins, and when they misbehave, not only can we pop
their kneecaps, set fire to
At 10:39 AM 5/8/2000 -0700, Jim Stephenson-Dunn wrote:
No! We don't want to fix the holes! We want to keep a record of them
without telling the admins, and when they misbehave, not only can we pop
their kneecaps, set fire to their house, release information to their
families they wouldn't want to
that's right - they use iMODE on the DOCOMO mobiles. iMODE and
WAP seem to have that in common: a non-IP radio link protocol
and an application gateway. Of course, this limits the applications
to those that can be "translated" in the gateway, while an end to
end system (such as the Ricochet from
For those of you who don't know, and Jim is too modest
to tell you, he was a member of the Stanford team that
designed and implemented the first TCP protocol versions.
Later he went on to build the first versions for the
portable Digital LSI-11s used in the Packet Radio network.
Vint
big smile - vBNS+ is running IPv6 on a commercial basis. I'd be more than interested in
your opinion of a sensible (acceptable) policy on the minimum size of IPv6 space one
might expect
to allocate to customers.
Vint
At 09:08 PM 4/22/2000 -0500, Richard Shockey wrote:
And yes I have a credit
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