[David Kessens] DISCUSS: draft-carpenter-rescind-3683

2006-10-19 Thread Sam Hartman
Hi, folks. david filed the following discuss on Brian's draft to rescind 3683. David is concerned that the IETF consensus is not strong enough to approve this draft. We definitely could use your feedback on this issue. In order to address David's concern, I'm going to last call the draft aga

Re: [David Kessens] DISCUSS: draft-carpenter-rescind-3683

2006-10-19 Thread Joel M. Halpern
After re-read Brian's draft, RFC 3683, RFC 3934, and the relevant portions of RFC2418 I support the IESG/ADs ability to make longer than 30-day suspensions and to engage in alternate methods of mailing list control, as described in 2418. I agree that the IESG having only the option of 1 year sus

Re: [David Kessens] DISCUSS: draft-carpenter-rescind-3683

2006-10-19 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Joel" == Joel M Halpern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joel> After re-read Brian's draft, RFC 3683, RFC 3934, and the Joel> relevant portions of RFC2418 I support the IESG/ADs ability Joel> to make longer than 30-day suspensions and to engage in Joel> alternate methods of maili

Re: [David Kessens] DISCUSS: draft-carpenter-rescind-3683

2006-10-21 Thread Ned Freed
Sam Hartman writes: > david filed the following discuss on Brian's draft to rescind 3683. > David is concerned that the IETF consensus is not strong enough to > approve this draft. > We definitely could use your feedback on this issue. I am already on record as opposing the adoption of an earlie

Re: [David Kessens] DISCUSS: draft-carpenter-rescind-3683

2006-10-21 Thread John Leslie
Ned Freed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam Hartman writes: > >> David filed the following discuss on Brian's draft to rescind 3683. >> David is concerned that the IETF consensus is not strong enough to >> approve this draft. > >> We definitely could use your feedback on this issue. > > I am alre

Re: [David Kessens] DISCUSS: draft-carpenter-rescind-3683

2006-10-21 Thread David Kessens
John, On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 07:14:41PM -0400, John Leslie wrote: > Ned Freed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > RFC 3683 defines _two_ different types of Posting Rights Actions > > (PR-Actions): Ones to rescind posting rights and ones to _restore_ > > previously rescinded rights... > >Indee

Re: [David Kessens] DISCUSS: draft-carpenter-rescind-3683

2006-10-22 Thread John Leslie
David Kessens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 07:14:41PM -0400, John Leslie wrote: >> >> If we ever do have ADs interested in restoring the rights, I quite >> specifically do _not_ want to repeat the denial-of-service attack on >> this list. > > What denial-of service attack

Re: [David Kessens] DISCUSS: draft-carpenter-rescind-3683

2006-10-23 Thread Robert Sayre
On 10/22/06, David Kessens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This basically allows the IESG to do whatever it pleases without requiring community input. And because of this, it will also be hard to appeal any decisions made this way as this draft supports the idea that the IESG has the authority to do