Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread Harald Alvestrand
Randall Gellens wrote: (1) This version still has some editor's notes. Are these intended for publication? No. The writeup didn't get copied into the Last Call, but as WG chair, I believe that the document is complete if all the editor's notes are deleted. Some of them point to areas that

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread Randall Gellens
At 8:44 PM +0100 1/17/07, Harald Alvestrand wrote: (2) In section 1.3: An i18mail user has one or more non-ASCII email addresses. Such a user may have ASCII addresses too; if the user has more than one email account and corresponding address, or more than one alias for the

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread Randall Gellens
At 8:44 PM +0100 1/17/07, Harald Alvestrand wrote: (3) In section 4.3: the risk should be minimized by the fact that the selection of submission servers are presumably under the control of the sender's client and the selection of potential intermediate relays is under the

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 17 January, 2007 12:12 -0800 Randall Gellens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the second-to-last sentence refer to an ASCII address, or any address? The wording implies any address, but if an address is non-ASCII, surely that is a good sign that the owner of that address

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 17 January, 2007 12:25 -0800 Randall Gellens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (This could also be mentioned in the smtpext document.) I haven't seen that possibility raised. I'm somewhat skeptical that it would be an improvement (it makes the delay before error reporting

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread Randall Gellens
At 3:59 PM -0500 1/17/07, John C Klensin wrote: --On Wednesday, 17 January, 2007 12:12 -0800 Randall Gellens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the second-to-last sentence refer to an ASCII address, or any address? The wording implies any address, but if an address is non-ASCII, surely

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 17 January, 2007 14:31 -0800 Randall Gellens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about: Replace: Note that under this definition, it is not possible to tell from the address that an email sender or recipient is an i18mail user. with: Note that under

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread Randall Gellens
At 4:02 PM -0500 1/17/07, John C Klensin wrote: In any event, I'd recommend/request that you specify text and where it should go. I'm thinking a brief mention in the Framework document, with more discussion in the SMTP extension document, and maybe a mention in the downgrade document.

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread Randall Gellens
At 5:40 PM -0500 1/17/07, John C Klensin wrote: Hmm. Because of my concern that some of the non-ASCII addresses we will see floating around will result from guessing, how about ... (A non-ASCII address implies a belief that the... if you can live with that, and no one else objects

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread Yangwoo Ko
Randall Gellens wrote: At 3:59 PM -0500 1/17/07, John C Klensin wrote: --On Wednesday, 17 January, 2007 12:12 -0800 Randall Gellens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the second-to-last sentence refer to an ASCII address, or any address? The wording implies any address, but if an

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread Randall Gellens
At 9:53 AM +0900 1/18/07, Yangwoo Ko wrote: How about: Replace: Note that under this definition, it is not possible to tell from the address that an email sender or recipient is an i18mail user. with: Note that under this definition, it is not possible to tell from

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread Yao Jiankang
- Original Message - From: Randall Gellens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Harald Alvestrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: ietf@ietf.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-16 Thread Randall Gellens
(1) This version still has some editor's notes. Are these intended for publication? (2) In section 1.3: An i18mail user has one or more non-ASCII email addresses. Such a user may have ASCII addresses too; if the user has more than one email account and corresponding address, or more