Re: [Geopriv] Response to appeal dated 22-June-2007

2007-09-23 Thread Jari Arkko
Ted, Sam, I also agree with your points, and yes, even personnel decisions by AD can be appealed. The appeals process is not intended to merely inspect whether formal right to perform an action existed; such appeals would be very easily decided. In most cases, an appeal involves an action which

Re: [Geopriv] Response to appeal dated 22-June-2007

2007-09-21 Thread Sam Hartman
Ted, speaking as an individual. I completely agree that personnel decisions of ADs should be able to be appealed. I actually considered proposing text modifications to make it clear that there might be circumstances where it would be appropriate for the IESG to resolve the conflict. I and I

Re: [Geopriv] Response to appeal dated 22-June-2007

2007-09-21 Thread Russ Housley
Ted: With great respect, I must disagree. The appeal says: It is the position of the appellants that this removal violates the IETF process by which working groups are governed. This say to me that the appellants believe that Cullen Jennings violated IETF process by replacing the GEOPRIV

Re: [Geopriv] Response to appeal dated 22-June-2007

2007-09-21 Thread Ted Hardie
At 1:16 PM -0400 9/21/07, Russ Housley wrote: Ted: With great respect, I must disagree. The appeal says: It is the position of the appellants that this removal violates the IETF process by which working groups are governed. This say to me that the appellants believe that Cullen Jennings