Re: [Tools-discuss] independant submissions that update standards track, and datatracker

2013-10-03 Thread Michael Richardson
Abdussalam Baryun abdussalambar...@gmail.com wrote: While I think that individual submissions that are not the result of consensus do not belong on a WG page. Where do they belong? I prefer that they belong under the Area page, but is there an area page, not sure why was

Re: [Tools-discuss] independant submissions that update standards track, and datatracker

2013-10-03 Thread Spencer Dawkins
On 10/2/2013 9:15 AM, Scott O Bradner wrote: 1 April RFCs excepted Ah. I'm sitting here banging my head on a desk thinking I knew that ... thanks, Scott! Spencer

Re: [Tools-discuss] independant submissions that update standards track, and datatracker

2013-10-02 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
Hi Michael, I agree that it should appear in related WG's field or area. I see in IETF we have WGs documents list but not areas' documents list, so the individual document may not be found or discovered. I think any document of IETF should be listed in its field area or related charter, but it

RE: [Tools-discuss] independant submissions that update standards track, and datatracker

2013-10-02 Thread John E Drake
Irrepressible Yours Irrespectively, John From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Abdussalam Baryun Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:19 AM To: Michael Richardson Cc: ietf; tools-disc...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] independant submissions that update

RE: [Tools-discuss] independant submissions that update standards track, and datatracker

2013-10-02 Thread l.wood
:18 To: Michael Richardson Cc: ietf; tools-disc...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] independant submissions that update standards track, and datatracker Hi Michael, I agree that it should appear in related WG's field or area. I see in IETF we have WGs documents list but not areas

Re: [Tools-discuss] independant submissions that update standards track, and datatracker

2013-10-02 Thread Scott O Bradner
1 April RFCs excepted Scott On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org wrote: because all IETF document are examined by IESG No they're not. See RFC4844. Lloyd, it *is* true that all documents in the IETF stream are reviewed and approved by the IESG. I would take

Re: [Tools-discuss] independant submissions that update standards track, and datatracker

2013-10-02 Thread Barry Leiba
because all IETF document are examined by IESG No they're not. See RFC4844. Lloyd, it *is* true that all documents in the IETF stream are reviewed and approved by the IESG. I would take IETF documents to refer to documents in the IETF stream. (In fact, documents in the IRTF and Independent

RE: [Tools-discuss] independant submissions that update standards track, and datatracker

2013-10-02 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
While I think that individual submissions that are not the result of consensus do not belong on a WG page. Where do they belong? I prefer that they belong under the Area page, but is there an area page, not sure why was that not a good idea. But, if the document was the result of consensus,