RE: A priori IPR choices [Re: Third Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns]

2007-10-19 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
To: Hallam-Baker, Phillip Cc: Simon Josefsson; Tim Polk; ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: A priori IPR choices [Re: Third Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns] Phill, If folk can't get their act together when a WG starts then why should we expect them to be able to do so at the end when we are trying

RE: A priori IPR choices [Re: Third Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns]

2007-10-19 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
:30 PM To: Hallam-Baker, Phillip Cc: Simon Josefsson; Tim Polk; ietf@ietf.org Subject: A priori IPR choices [Re: Third Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns] On 2007-10-19 05:47, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: ... What I would suggest is that new working groups be required to specify

Re: A priori IPR choices [Re: Third Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns]

2007-10-19 Thread Dave Crocker
Scott Brim wrote: On 19 Oct 2007 at 10:30 +1300, Brian E Carpenter allegedly wrote: On 2007-10-19 05:47, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: What I would suggest is that new working groups be required to specify the governing IPR rules in their charter ... Violent disagreement. That would make

Re: A priori IPR choices [Re: Third Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns]

2007-10-19 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Phill, If folk can't get their act together when a WG starts then why should we expect them to be able to do so at the end when we are trying to close the work? Because of the difference between known unknowns and unknown unknowns. At the beginning, you're asking an entirely hypothetical

A priori IPR choices [Re: Third Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns]

2007-10-18 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2007-10-19 05:47, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: ... What I would suggest is that new working groups be required to specify the governing IPR rules in their charter, these would be either that all IPR must be offered according to an open grant on W3C terms or that the working group specifies

A priori IPR choices [Re: Third Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns]

2007-10-18 Thread Scott Brim
On 19 Oct 2007 at 10:30 +1300, Brian E Carpenter allegedly wrote: On 2007-10-19 05:47, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: What I would suggest is that new working groups be required to specify the governing IPR rules in their charter, these would be either that all IPR must be offered according