Re: Actual IPv6 deployment observed

2009-07-27 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
If we are going to get that number up we need to have an application layer interface that is 100% indifferent to the underlying network version. We seem to have slid backwards here. When the Web code was written it was network agnostic. You could switch from TCP/IP to DECNETIV or OSI by only chang

Re: Actual IPv6 deployment observed

2009-07-27 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 27 jul 2009, at 16:29, Danny McPherson wrote: The 0.01% they talk about is TRAFFIC, not USERS. And it's bogus anyway. Not that I want to have this discussion here again (folks should revisit the archives) This is what I had to say about it: http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2008/08/re

Re: Actual IPv6 deployment observed

2009-07-27 Thread Danny McPherson
On Jul 27, 2009, at 3:02 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 27 jul 2009, at 9:43, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: This must mean that silently enabling IPv6 increases the number of people for whom IPv6 works by a factor of around 100 (from <0.01% in the general population (http://asert.arbornetw

Re: Actual IPv6 deployment observed

2009-07-27 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 27 jul 2009, at 9:43, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: This must mean that silently enabling IPv6 increases the number of people for whom IPv6 works by a factor of around 100 (from <0.01% in the general population (http://asert.arbornetworks.com/2008/08/the-end-is-near-but-is-ipv6/ said <0.01%.

Re: Actual IPv6 deployment observed

2009-07-27 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Jeroen Massar writes: No, it is not "Native IPv6 over DSL" or any other form unfortunately. You have to start thanking Microsoft for pushing 6to4 and especially Teredo, having it automatically on new platforms and having clients like uTorrent auto-enable it on install for those that don't. u

Re: Actual IPv6 deployment observed

2009-07-26 Thread Jeroen Massar
Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > Iljitsch van Beijnum writes: >> You do have to understand that IPv6 support was available in >> BitTorrent clients for a long time, but then the Pirate Bay deployed >> trackers (servers) that were incompatible with the existing clients, >> so only people who both have I

Re: Actual IPv6 deployment observed

2009-07-26 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Iljitsch van Beijnum writes: You do have to understand that IPv6 support was available in BitTorrent clients for a long time, but then the Pirate Bay deployed trackers (servers) that were incompatible with the existing clients, so only people who both have IPv6 and a recent IPv6-capable clie

Re: Actual IPv6 deployment observed

2009-07-26 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 26 jul 2009, at 12:45, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: I quote from thepiratebay.org home page: IPv4 21.613.113 peers (10.992.697 seeders + 10.620.416 leechers) in 1.969.865 torrents on tracker. IPv6 210.410 peers (115.584 seeders + 94.826 leechers) in 174.895 torrents on tracker. Most number

Actual IPv6 deployment observed

2009-07-26 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
I quote from thepiratebay.org home page: IPv4 21.613.113 peers (10.992.697 seeders + 10.620.416 leechers) in 1.969.865 torrents on tracker. IPv6 210.410 peers (115.584 seeders + 94.826 leechers) in 174.895 torrents on tracker. Most numbers are about 1%, and about 9% of torrents contain one or