Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-08 Thread Martin Rex
The id-announce mails are defective. I thought the proposal was to ADD a URL to the HTML/tools or datatracker versions of the I-D, rather than remove the URL to the versioned TXT file. While Barry Leibas suggested Greasemonkey script curiously fixes the 404 error created by the recent change to

Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Xavier Marjou
As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I generally prefer reading the HTML version of the draft rather than the TXT version. I thus often need to manually rewrite the TXT link to fetch the HTML version of the draft. I can not believe I'm the only one. Hence, would it be possible to

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-03-06 14:41, Xavier Marjou wrote: As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I generally prefer reading the HTML version of the draft rather than the TXT version. I thus often need to manually rewrite the TXT link to fetch the HTML version of the draft. I can not believe I'm the

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Simon Perreault
On 2012-03-06 08:51, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2012-03-06 14:41, Xavier Marjou wrote: As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I generally prefer reading the HTML version of the draft rather than the TXT version. I thus often need to manually rewrite the TXT link to fetch the HTML

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Yoav Nir
Even better, also add the XML2RFC output if it's available at the same time: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-name.html for example, (just picking my own latest draft as an example): http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-nir-websec-extended-origin-02.html I don't know which drafts get this version

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Riccardo Bernardini
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Simon Perreault simon.perrea...@viagenie.ca wrote: On 2012-03-06 08:51, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2012-03-06 14:41, Xavier Marjou wrote: As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I generally prefer reading the HTML version of the draft rather than the

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-03-06 14:56, Yoav Nir wrote: Even better, also add the XML2RFC output if it's available at the same time: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-name.html for example, (just picking my own latest draft as an example): http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-nir-websec-extended-origin-02.html +1 I

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Hector
+1. This will save a few typing and clicks. Xavier Marjou wrote: As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I generally prefer reading the HTML version of the draft rather than the TXT version. I thus often need to manually rewrite the TXT link to fetch the HTML version of the draft.

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Russ Housley
I would be much happier with a link to the datatracker HTML version: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-name/ Would this meet your needs? Russ On Mar 6, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Xavier Marjou wrote: As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I generally prefer reading the HTML version

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Randy Bush
I would be much happier with a link to the datatracker HTML version: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-name/ Would this meet your needs? then we can each have our cake and eat it too. but i fear folk may just want the bright shiny. randy ___

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Dave Crocker
On 3/6/2012 6:12 AM, Russ Housley wrote: I would be much happier with a link to the datatracker HTML version: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-name/ +1 d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net ___ Ietf mailing list

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Riccardo Bernardini
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: I would be much happier with a link to the datatracker HTML version: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-name/ Would this meet your needs? Yes, it would be fine. From my point of view the two versions are almost equivalent,

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Tony Hansen
It would be acceptable to me, especially since there's a link from there to the tools HTML version. (Look for the html link at the top.) Tony Hansen On 3/6/2012 9:12 AM, Russ Housley wrote: I would be much happier with a link to the datatracker HTML version:

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Xavier Marjou
With a link like https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-name/ (e.g. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nir-websec-extended-origin/ ), I will most often then click again on the html top right link. But I'm fine with it too. On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Yoav Nir
The XML2RFC version is not linked from there. If that was added to the Other versions field, that would be great. On Mar 6, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Xavier Marjou wrote: With a link like https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-name/ (e.g.

Re: [IETF] Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Warren Kumari
On Mar 6, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Xavier Marjou wrote: As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I generally prefer reading the HTML version of the draft rather than the TXT version. I thus often need to manually rewrite the TXT link to fetch the HTML version of the draft. I can not

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Barry Leiba
almost equivalent, this latter maybe is more flexible (at the expense of one more click, which is negligible) Re: one more click... https://datatracker.ietf.org/cookies/ Note the third item. Barry ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

RE: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
-Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Xavier Marjou Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 5:42 AM To: IETF Discussion Subject: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ? As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I

RE: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
-Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Russ Housley Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 6:13 AM To: Xavier Marjou Cc: IETF Discussion Subject: Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ? I would be much happier with a

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-03-06 16:26, Yoav Nir wrote: The XML2RFC version is not linked from there. If that was added to the Other versions field, that would be great. ... Indeed. HTMLized plain text is progress over plain text, but properly generated HTML is better. But I fear we're getting close to our

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Yoav Nir
On Mar 6, 2012, at 11:44 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2012-03-06 16:26, Yoav Nir wrote: The XML2RFC version is not linked from there. If that was added to the Other versions field, that would be great. ... Indeed. HTMLized plain text is progress over plain text, but properly generated

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Russ Housley
Pictures in RFCs? Come to the RFCFORM BOF to voice opinions on this topic. Russ ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Tim Bray
Not that voicing opinions on this topic has ever done any good. -T On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com wrote: Pictures in RFCs? Come to the RFCFORM BOF to voice opinions on this topic. Russ ___ Ietf mailing list

Re: [IETF] Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Barry Leiba
Yup, you are not the only one -- this annoyed me sufficiently that I finally gave in and wrote a Chrome extension to do this for me. Basically it watches the address bard and looks for www.ietf.org/id/foo and, depending on the setting in the options page, will redirect to the Tools or

Re: [IETF] Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?

2012-03-06 Thread Warren Kumari
On Mar 6, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: Yup, you are not the only one -- this annoyed me sufficiently that I finally gave in and wrote a Chrome extension to do this for me. Basically it watches the address bard and looks for www.ietf.org/id/foo and, depending on the setting in the