RE: Appeal: Publication of draft-lyon-senderid-core-01 inconflictwith referenced draft-schlitt-spf-classic-02

2005-08-26 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
> Behalf Of wayne > > The way to do this is to introduce a pointer record using CNAME as > > follows: > > > > _prefix.exists.example.comTXT "Policy1" > > *.example.com CNAME _wildcard.example.com > > _prefix._wildcard.example.com TXT "Policy2" > > I don

RE: Appeal: Publication of draft-lyon-senderid-core-01 inconflictwith referenced draft-schlitt-spf-classic-02

2005-08-26 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
> Behalf Of wayne > > At some point there is a boundary between infrastructure the sender > > has control of and where he does not. That boundary is very clearly > > defined in my universe but even if it was ambiguous it would still > > exist. > > The problem is that for different identities, t

Re: Appeal: Publication of draft-lyon-senderid-core-01 inconflictwith referenced draft-schlitt-spf-classic-02

2005-08-26 Thread Frank Ellermann
Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: > Once that boundary is defined the definition is fair game for > any party to use to interpret it to meet their operational > needs. The boundaries are different and incompatible for spf2.0/mfrom (roughly te same as v=spf1) and spf2.0/pra. That's the point of the ap

RE: Appeal: Publication of draft-lyon-senderid-core-01 inconflictwith referenced draft-schlitt-spf-classic-02

2005-08-27 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, John Glube wrote: |The only relevant boundary is between what the sender |controls and what they do not. All that any sender, |forwarder or any other mail injector can ever be expected |to do is to define the boundaries of the systems they |control. | |Once that boundary is

RE: Appeal: Publication of draft-lyon-senderid-core-01 inconflictwith referenced draft-schlitt-spf-classic-02

2005-08-27 Thread Nicholas Staff
"Two will leave but only one shall return"...I'm by no means suggesting that's a desirable approach to decision making but we've managed to get ourselves into a place where I think it's now the best way out. Fortunately since this incompatibility will result in email that should have been received

RE: Appeal: Publication of draft-lyon-senderid-core-01 inconflictwith referenced draft-schlitt-spf-classic-02

2005-08-27 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Douglas Otis wrote: On Sat, 2005-08-27 at 12:00 -0700, william(at)elan.net wrote: But if reuse of spf1 records is really realy the only way for MS and it wants to continue, then the only possibility for negotiation I see is to get it part the way for both sides. This woul

RE: Appeal: Publication of draft-lyon-senderid-core-01 inconflictwith referenced draft-schlitt-spf-classic-02

2005-08-29 Thread Douglas Otis
On Sat, 2005-08-27 at 12:00 -0700, william(at)elan.net wrote: > But if reuse of spf1 records is really realy the only way for MS > and it wants to continue, then the only possibility for negotiation > I see is to get it part the way for both sides. This would involve: >1. MS agrees to change i