Appeal of AD Decision to uphold Atompub ban

2006-03-16 Thread Robert Sayre
Dear IESG, I'm writing to appeal an AD decision to ban me from posting to the Atompub mailing lists. The text of the original appeal is included below. Please keep in mind that this message comes from someone who has put a lot of effort into the WG activities, edited the only successful product o

RE: Appeal of AD Decision to uphold Atompub ban

2006-03-16 Thread Scott Hollenbeck
OTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:20 AM > To: iesg@ietf.org; IETF discussion list > Subject: Appeal of AD Decision to uphold Atompub ban > > Dear IESG, > > I'm writing to appeal an AD decision to ban me from posting to the > Atompub mailing lists. The text o

Re: Appeal of AD Decision to uphold Atompub ban

2006-03-19 Thread Sam Hartman
Robert, Scott and Paul, is there any chance you could sit down and try to work this out? I read Robert's two messages to the working group list and I do find them fairly hard to follow. They don't explain why he's angry at a specific organization or what the supposed process failure is. If he

Re: Appeal of AD Decision to uphold Atompub ban

2006-03-19 Thread Robert Sayre
On 3/19/06, Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > is there any chance you could sit down and try to work this out? No, the WG is out of control. That's easy to observe, no matter where one places the blame. > > If he had explicitly explained that there were conformance tests that > were not

Re: Appeal of AD Decision to uphold Atompub ban

2006-03-19 Thread Robert Sayre
On 3/19/06, Paul Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is a long-standing effort outside the WG that includes > conformance tests. Their first inclusion of conformance tests for the > current draft had many errors, as Rob pointed out. The errors were extensive to indicate that either the ed

Re: Appeal of AD Decision to uphold Atompub ban

2006-03-22 Thread Robert Sayre
On 3/19/06, Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Remember suspensions are a tool to improve efficiency of > working groups, not punishments to punish people for bad behavior. Sam, thank you for your calm remarks. After spending a week thinking about this suspension, I have decided to withdraw

Re: Appeal of AD Decision to uphold Atompub ban

2006-03-23 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Robert, Robert Sayre wrote: On 3/19/06, Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Remember suspensions are a tool to improve efficiency of working groups, not punishments to punish people for bad behavior. Sam, thank you for your calm remarks. After spending a week thinking about this suspensi

Re: Appeal of AD Decision to uphold Atompub ban

2006-04-29 Thread Robert Sayre
On 3/23/06, Brian E Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Robert Sayre wrote: > I am skeptical that Atompub will get any work done, > since I believe they have inaccurately identified the cause of their > problems ... We have an appeals process for good reasons, and you should certainly not ap