Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database"

2013-08-20 Thread Pete Resnick
On 8/20/13 4:21 PM, Tony Hansen wrote: I support this. But it also raises a couple other questions. What about rfcxx99 series, published along with the rfcxx00 series? Were they ever formally retired? That's not an IETF matter. There's no STD on this. There's nothing (AFAICT) in a BCP abo

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database"

2013-08-20 Thread Tony Hansen
On 8/20/2013 3:01 PM, Pete Resnick wrote: > On 8/15/13 2:06 PM, SM wrote: >> At 11:48 14-08-2013, IAB Chair wrote: >>> This is a call for review of "List of Internet Official Protocol >>> Standards: Replaced by an Online Database" prior to potential >>> approval as an IAB stream RFC. >> >> My guess

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database"

2013-08-20 Thread Pete Resnick
On 8/20/13 3:26 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: If the data is in a database then surely the production of RFC xx00 standards series is simply running an automated query on the database and emitting the result as an RFC? I'm sure that such a tool could be created. To date, I believe the docum

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database"

2013-08-20 Thread SM
Hi Pete, At 12:01 20-08-2013, Pete Resnick wrote: The IESG and the IAB had an email exchange about these two points. Moving a document from Standard to Historic is really an IETF thing to do. And it would be quite simple for the IETF to say, "We are no longer asking for the 'Official Protocol S

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database"

2013-08-20 Thread John C Klensin
--On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 14:01 -0500 Pete Resnick wrote: > On 8/15/13 2:06 PM, SM wrote: >> At 11:48 14-08-2013, IAB Chair wrote: >>> This is a call for review of "List of Internet Official >>> Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database" prior >>> to potential approval as an IAB

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database"

2013-08-20 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
I am having trouble understanding this discussion. If the data is in a database then surely the production of RFC xx00 standards series is simply running an automated query on the database and emitting the result as an RFC?

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database"

2013-08-20 Thread Pete Resnick
On 8/15/13 2:06 PM, SM wrote: At 11:48 14-08-2013, IAB Chair wrote: This is a call for review of "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database" prior to potential approval as an IAB stream RFC. My guess is that draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired cannot update RFC 2026

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database"

2013-08-16 Thread Brian E Carpenter
I think that if we worried about every minor deviation from RFC 2026, we would be here for a long time and wasting most of it. I have no particular objection to publishing the draft. Regards Brian Carpenter (who tried and failed - see draft-carpenter-rfc2026-critique, draft-carpenter-rfc2026

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database"

2013-08-16 Thread John C Klensin
--On Thursday, August 15, 2013 12:06 -0700 SM wrote: > At 11:48 14-08-2013, IAB Chair wrote: > This is a call for review of "List of Internet Official > Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database" prior to > potential approval as an IAB stream RFC. > > The document is available for ins

Re: [IAB] Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database"

2013-08-16 Thread Russ Housley
SM: > This is a call for review of "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: > Replaced by an Online Database" prior to potential approval as an IAB stream > RFC. > > The document is available for inspection here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired/ > > From S

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database"

2013-08-15 Thread SM
At 11:48 14-08-2013, IAB Chair wrote: This is a call for review of "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database" prior to potential approval as an IAB stream RFC. The document is available for inspection here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rfced-rfcxx

Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database"

2013-08-14 Thread IAB Chair
This is a call for review of "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database" prior to potential approval as an IAB stream RFC. The document is available for inspection here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired/ The Call for Review will la