--On 11. februar 2005 07:03 -0500 Margaret Wasserman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So, with my ISOC Board hat on (a hat which none of the ISOC Board members
are legally allowed to take off), I am not inclined to ignore legal
advice from ISOC's corporate counsel. Maybe the IETF Chair could ask the
For myself, I find the arguments on both sides of "controlled"
and "managed" to be compelling -- perhaps because I am not a
lawyer.
However, I am conscious that the words we write down are scrutinized
and used by people the world over -- not always to our benefit,
and often without any of the conte
Leslie,
this works for ISOC.
Lynn
At 11:15 AM -0500 2/11/05, Leslie Daigle wrote:
That makes the entire abstract:
"
This document describes the structure of the IETF Administrative Support
Activity (IASA) as an activity housed within the Internet Society
(ISOC). It defines the roles and responsibil
Hi Leslie -
> For myself, I find the arguments on both sides of "controlled"
> and "managed" to be compelling -- perhaps because I am not a
> lawyer.
>
Finding both sides compelling makes you very qualified
to be a lawyer. ;)
> So, if the token really doesn't mean anything (per Jorge) becaus
At 11:15 AM -0500 2/11/05, Leslie Daigle wrote:
So, if the token really doesn't mean anything (per Jorge) because
the import is in the text of the document, perhaps the right
answer is to just *drop* that clause.
"This document describes the structure of the IETF Administrative
Support Activity (I
Leslie,
If the IAOC is intended to provide oversight of the activities and actions
of ISOC with respect to IETF related matters in the future, then the IAOC
will need to be independent of ISOC, otherwise the IAOC cannot be an
effective oversight body. You might as well have ISOC be directly
res
Bob,
My point was that the abstract text should not be at odds with
the body of the document, or otherwise be misleading.
The important aspects of the definition of the IAOC and
its relationship to the IASA and ISOC are contained in the
body of the document.
Leslie.
Bob Kahn wrote:
Leslie,
If the I
Leslie,
Where in the body of the document does it say that the IAOC is independent
of ISOC. This could have been clarified but was not. I believe it needs to
be explicit.
bob
At 01:10 PM 2/14/2005, Leslie Daigle wrote:
Bob,
My point was that the abstract text should not be at odds with
the body
