Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2010-01-04 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
Ab arrq - jr nyernql unir ebg13! On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Randy Presuhn wrote: > Hi - > >> From: "Richard L. Barnes" >> To: "IETF Member Dave Aronson" >> Cc: "IETF Discussion" >> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:46 AM >&g

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-30 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Well we finally tracked down the problem Part of the delay was, I was not going to submit a fake ID to run this down, but was just working toward the -01 version which I submitted yesterday. Dave CROCKER wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: But the short of it is that only a small select

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-15 Thread Jari Arkko
Steven, Are you expecting people to reply with +I? Some of us have already transitioned to the new numbering system. This document is currently in last call: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xli-behave-ivi-05 and I quote: This document presents the CERNET IVI translation design and

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-15 Thread Dave Cridland
On Tue Dec 15 10:28:35 2009, Stewart Bryant wrote: Dave Cridland wrote: On Tue Dec 15 02:08:08 2009, IETF Member Dave Aronson wrote: On Mon, Dec XIV, MMIX at XX:X, Loa Andersson wrote: > great idea - and we should als adopt Latin numbers! ... > Loa Andersson > > Sr Strategy and Standards Mana

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-15 Thread Stewart Bryant
Dave Cridland wrote: On Tue Dec 15 02:08:08 2009, IETF Member Dave Aronson wrote: On Mon, Dec XIV, MMIX at XX:X, Loa Andersson wrote: > great idea - and we should als adopt Latin numbers! ... > Loa Andersson > > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager > Ericsson /// > phone: +46 10 717 52 13 >

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-15 Thread Dave Cridland
On Tue Dec 15 02:08:08 2009, IETF Member Dave Aronson wrote: On Mon, Dec XIV, MMIX at XX:X, Loa Andersson wrote: > great idea - and we should als adopt Latin numbers! ... > Loa Andersson > > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager > Ericsson /// >   phone:  +46 10 717 52 13 >           +46 767 72 92

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-14 Thread IETF Member Dave Aronson
On Mon, Dec XIV, MMIX at XX:X, Loa Andersson wrote: > great idea - and we should als adopt Latin numbers! ... > Loa Andersson > > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager > Ericsson /// >   phone:  +46 10 717 52 13 >           +46 767 72 92 13 Shouldn't you therefore have written: phone: +XLVI X DC

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-14 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Dec 14, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Loa Andersson wrote: > All, > >> Hi - >> >>> From: "Richard L. Barnes" >>> To: "IETF Member Dave Aronson" >>> Cc: "IETF Discussion" >>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:46 AM

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-14 Thread Loa Andersson
All, > Hi - > >> From: "Richard L. Barnes" >> To: "IETF Member Dave Aronson" >> Cc: "IETF Discussion" >> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:46 AM >> Subject: Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails >>

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-14 Thread IETF Member Dave Aronson
Randy Presuhn wrote: > It's about time we got rid of that pesky J and W, and we don't > *really *need both V and U, do uue? Cue Mark Twain and his orxografikl riform... -Dave -- Dave Aronson - Have Pun, Will Babble | Work: davearonson.com | /\ ASCII -+ Play

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-14 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Richard L. Barnes" > To: "IETF Member Dave Aronson" > Cc: "IETF Discussion" > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:46 AM > Subject: Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails > > Clearly, the best solution to this probl

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-14 Thread Julian Reschke
Richard L. Barnes wrote: > Clearly, the best solution to this problem is to enforce Latin as the > official language of the Internet. Lots of people already use the Latin > character set! > > --Richard ...we could also define a character encoding "XTF-8" which is identical to UTF-8, except that

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-14 Thread Richard L. Barnes
Clearly, the best solution to this problem is to enforce Latin as the official language of the Internet. Lots of people already use the Latin character set! --Richard On Dec 14, 2009, at 10:12 AM, IETF Member Dave Aronson wrote: On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 15:10, Doug Ewell wrote: A former

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-14 Thread IETF Member Dave Aronson
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 15:10, Doug Ewell wrote: > A former employer of mine once blocked a message which contained the phrase > "magna cxm laude," where the X was a U.  Apparently that one word, taken out > of context, was sufficient. That's clbuttic. A group I belong to, once had a convention

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-12 Thread Doug Ewell
"Dave CROCKER" wrote: Consequently, it could be interesting to track down why your corporate filters are flagging these. A former employer of mine once blocked a message which contained the phrase "magna cxm laude," where the X was a U. Apparently that one word, taken out of context, was s

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-11 Thread Wes Hardaker
> On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:38:51 +0100, Julian Reschke > said: JR> I would hope that the ID actually points out a specific IETF mailing JR> list for comments, and the author is reading it. I'd say most do not. Most just list author addresses and do not list the WG mailing list. -- Wes H

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-09 Thread Julian Reschke
Dave CROCKER wrote: Julian Reschke wrote: Wes Hardaker wrote: ... But consider the fact that: half the purpose of posting an ID is to get comments about it sent to you. Consider then that if you have any sort of aggressive filtering in place that's blocking your receipt of the verification mes

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-09 Thread Dave CROCKER
Julian Reschke wrote: Wes Hardaker wrote: ... But consider the fact that: half the purpose of posting an ID is to get comments about it sent to you. Consider then that if you have any sort of aggressive filtering in place that's blocking your receipt of the verification messages then the chan

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-09 Thread Julian Reschke
Wes Hardaker wrote: ... But consider the fact that: half the purpose of posting an ID is to get comments about it sent to you. Consider then that if you have any sort of aggressive filtering in place that's blocking your receipt of the verification messages then the chances are very very high th

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-09 Thread Wes Hardaker
> On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:16:04 +0200, Jari Arkko > said: JA> But its good that Bob's IT person has promised to figure this out. The JA> filters seem simply too sensitive. I have not heard of other people JA> having a similar issue, at least not beyond an extent experienced for JA> all au

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-09 Thread Dave CROCKER
Wes Hardaker wrote: But consider the fact that: half the purpose of posting an ID is to get comments about it sent to you. Consider then that if you have any sort of aggressive filtering in place that's blocking your receipt of the verification messages then the chances are very very high that

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-08 Thread Jari Arkko
Dave, Bob, I do not, offhand, know any any interesting vocabulary or text pattern in these messages that ought to be problematic. All upper case text. Just a wild guess. But its good that Bob's IT person has promised to figure this out. The filters seem simply too sensitive. I have not heard

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-08 Thread Dave CROCKER
Robert Moskowitz wrote: But the short of it is that only a small selection of email attachments are let through and otherwise the email is dropped silently. Thus the email for validating an ID submission never got to my corporate email account. I doubt that I-D transaction messages confor

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-08 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Russ Housley wrote: Bob: There are no attachments in I-D Submission verification email messages from the online I-D Submission tool. The most recent one I got went like this: Thanks Russ. I just got a call from our IT guy that will look at the log and see what happened to the verificaiton e

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-08 Thread Russ Housley
Bob: There are no attachments in I-D Submission verification email messages from the online I-D Submission tool. The most recent one I got went like this: From: IETF I-D Submission Tool To: hous...@vigilsec.com Subject: I-D Submitter Authentication for Date: ,date. Please follow the link

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-08 Thread Joe Abley
On 2009-12-08, at 13:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Or is there a way already to customize this that I missed? You can submit a draft using the I-D submission tool using an address that is not listed in the document as an author's address. You can validate a draft for submission using the I-D s

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-08 Thread Robert Moskowitz
IETF Member Dave Aronson wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: ALL my IETF mailing lists come to email accounts that I control on my own mail server. but I recently submitted my first Internet Draft since my company was bought by a BIG TELCO, and it has BIG email filtering rules. In large pa

Re: Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-08 Thread IETF Member Dave Aronson
Robert Moskowitz wrote: > ALL my IETF mailing lists come to email accounts that I control on my own > mail server. but > > I recently submitted my first Internet Draft since my company was bought by > a BIG TELCO, and it has BIG email filtering rules.  In large part these > rules were develop

Corporate email attachment filters and IETF emails

2009-12-08 Thread Robert Moskowitz
ALL my IETF mailing lists come to email accounts that I control on my own mail server. but I recently submitted my first Internet Draft since my company was bought by a BIG TELCO, and it has BIG email filtering rules. In large part these rules were developed by my colleagues in the other